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Pixiv already did the first thing, All pixiv users have a Pawoo mastodon handle. I think it helped bring a lot more Japanese people to fedi.

by opan 4y ago

astrange 4y ago
Pixiv doesn't own them anymore so not sure if that still happens, but I do know Japanese users can't reach a lot of the rest of the universe because admins like randomly blocking their entire servers. https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1589188383376834560 https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1589188383376834560
- easrng 4y ago
  It's not "random". Some servers have legal concerns about the art they host, but also last I checked their moderation in general wasn't great (not sure if it was a "no english-speaking moderators" problem or a "we don't care" problem though.)
- odessacubbage 4y ago
  the reason is because pawoo and baraag are de-facto lolicon servers with neither the censorship requirements of pixiv or the content moderation of twitter. servers in different countries are going to have different laws and different cultural mores so you will no longer have the twitter model of curating the world's content by the standards of California progressivism which will probably also result in a far more fractured set of communities. considering the kinds of harassment artists are subject to on twitter, i don't even know if that is a bad thing.
  - astrange 4y ago
    My average Twitter moderation experience is getting an email back saying my reported tweet from RomanStatue1488 saying “The Jews took this from us” with a picture of 50s nostalgia art didn’t break any rules. (Direct quote.) California has little to do with it. You won’t be nearly as happy with a site run under the laws of a non-US country though.
- joepie91_ 4y ago
  Server blocks are not "random", and they are very much a part of how the fediverse functions. It's also what disincentivizes creating large effectively-unmoderatable instances, because you will very quickly find yourself isolated from the rest of the network. This is by design, not a bug - the fediverse is not meant to be a "town square".

Pixiv already did the first thing, All pixiv users have a Pawoo mastodon handle. I think it helped bring a lot more Japanese people to fedi.

by opan 4y ago

Pixiv already did the first thing, All pixiv users have a Pawoo mastodon handle. I think it helped bring a lot more Japanese people to fedi.

astrange 4y ago

Pixiv doesn't own them anymore so not sure if that still happens, but I do know Japanese users can't reach a lot of the rest of the universe because admins like randomly blocking their entire servers. https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1589188383376834560 https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1589188383376834560

easrng 4y ago
It's not "random". Some servers have legal concerns about the art they host, but also last I checked their moderation in general wasn't great (not sure if it was a "no english-speaking moderators" problem or a "we don't care" problem though.)
odessacubbage 4y ago
the reason is because pawoo and baraag are de-facto lolicon servers with neither the censorship requirements of pixiv or the content moderation of twitter. servers in different countries are going to have different laws and different cultural mores so you will no longer have the twitter model of curating the world's content by the standards of California progressivism which will probably also result in a far more fractured set of communities. considering the kinds of harassment artists are subject to on twitter, i don't even know if that is a bad thing.
- astrange 4y ago
  My average Twitter moderation experience is getting an email back saying my reported tweet from RomanStatue1488 saying “The Jews took this from us” with a picture of 50s nostalgia art didn’t break any rules. (Direct quote.) California has little to do with it. You won’t be nearly as happy with a site run under the laws of a non-US country though.
joepie91_ 4y ago
Server blocks are not "random", and they are very much a part of how the fediverse functions. It's also what disincentivizes creating large effectively-unmoderatable instances, because you will very quickly find yourself isolated from the rest of the network. This is by design, not a bug - the fediverse is not meant to be a "town square".