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It's absolutely beyond me how people believed (or still believe) that Mastodon will be a replacement for Twitter. That's a level of delusion I will never get be

It's absolutely beyond me how people believed (or still believe) that Mastodon will be a replacement for Twitter. That's a level of delusion I will never get behind.

pimterry 4y ago
For me, it's largely replaced Twitter already. I mainly used Twitter to see what was going on in tech & open-source and discuss development topics, and comfortably 50% of the tech people I followed on Twitter have now set up on Mastodon, either additionally (cross-posting to both) or in quite a few cases as a full replacement. I post the same thing to both and I get far more responses & engagement on Mastodon now. For me personally it _has_ replaced Twitter. Depends which circles you move in and what you use Twitter for (it's certainly not useful in the politics & journalism scene yet, for starters) but there's already significant movement here in some areas.
- previnder 4y ago
  You are like 1% of the 1% of the 1% of internet users. Most people have never heard of Mastodon, and even if they had, they'd find it hella confusing because there's no mastodon.com that they can go and sign up. This is the single greatest barrier to entry that's not going to go away without compromising the ideals of federation.
- xurukefi 4y ago
  I'm talking about mainstream adoption. Mastodon is never going to be anything more than a niche phenomenon. Similar to how odysee is never going to be the next YouTube, which is even more ridiculous that people believed that. If you want the masses you need a "classic" setup: big commercial company, lots of money and a centralized infrastructure.
  - berkes 4y ago
    But why does that "mainstream adoption" matter? Why do people only consider Mastodon (or many Open Source Software) a success when Joe Average wants to use it?
    - blowski 4y ago
      This is a great point. It all depends on how you define “success”. There is also the tendency for the mainstream successes to suck all the life out of niches. It’s not inevitable, and becoming a mainstream success can itself remove what was valuable to you in the niche. But if I want to use Mastodon, I’d rather all the people I want to follow are on there.
    - xurukefi 4y ago
      I'm not talking about success. I just stated that Mastodon is not going to be a replacement for twitter in the sense that it is never going to be a platform with hundreds of millions of active daily users, which is what (for some reason) a lot of people think Mastodon has the potential for.

It's absolutely beyond me how people believed (or still believe) that Mastodon will be a replacement for Twitter. That's a level of delusion I will never get behind.

pimterry 4y ago

For me, it's largely replaced Twitter already. I mainly used Twitter to see what was going on in tech & open-source and discuss development topics, and comfortably 50% of the tech people I followed on Twitter have now set up on Mastodon, either additionally (cross-posting to both) or in quite a few cases as a full replacement. I post the same thing to both and I get far more responses & engagement on Mastodon now. For me personally it _has_ replaced Twitter. Depends which circles you move in and what you use Twitter for (it's certainly not useful in the politics & journalism scene yet, for starters) but there's already significant movement here in some areas.

previnder 4y ago
You are like 1% of the 1% of the 1% of internet users. Most people have never heard of Mastodon, and even if they had, they'd find it hella confusing because there's no mastodon.com that they can go and sign up. This is the single greatest barrier to entry that's not going to go away without compromising the ideals of federation.
xurukefi 4y ago
I'm talking about mainstream adoption. Mastodon is never going to be anything more than a niche phenomenon. Similar to how odysee is never going to be the next YouTube, which is even more ridiculous that people believed that. If you want the masses you need a "classic" setup: big commercial company, lots of money and a centralized infrastructure.
- berkes 4y ago
  But why does that "mainstream adoption" matter? Why do people only consider Mastodon (or many Open Source Software) a success when Joe Average wants to use it?
  - blowski 4y ago
    This is a great point. It all depends on how you define “success”. There is also the tendency for the mainstream successes to suck all the life out of niches. It’s not inevitable, and becoming a mainstream success can itself remove what was valuable to you in the niche. But if I want to use Mastodon, I’d rather all the people I want to follow are on there.
  - xurukefi 4y ago
    I'm not talking about success. I just stated that Mastodon is not going to be a replacement for twitter in the sense that it is never going to be a platform with hundreds of millions of active daily users, which is what (for some reason) a lot of people think Mastodon has the potential for.