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I've touched two things - that's why they were put in separate paragraphs. Let me spell it out in different words: 1. People have certain rights, duties and pr

I've touched two things - that's why they were put in separate paragraphs. Let me spell it out in different words: 1. People have certain rights, duties and prohibitions. Equating the right of George Lucas to use ideas he saw with rights of a machine to do that misses the point by the same measure as asserting that MS enslaves the copilot, but in the opposite direction. 2. Scale does matter. If I'm an ordinary person then the act of eating won't ruin the ecosystem. Now imagine a construct that operates under the same principle of eating, but its jaw, stomach and speed of eating is many magnitudes larger - do we apply same limitations to both, because the principle of eating is the same? Also, since I'm spelling things out, the fact that I'm seeing the same argument many times over, and that it is so obviously flawed, makes me think that this is a symptom of astroturfing.

TuringTest 4y ago
> People have certain rights, duties and prohibitions. Equating the right of George Lucas to use ideas he saw with rights of a machine to do that misses the point Hardly relevant, given that the machine has no rights, so no one is equating those with anything. The point is that the machine is doing automated learning on behalf of the developers who are training it, so what should be decided is whether those very human people have a right to train their model in that way.
- jackdaniel 4y ago
  The op hypothetical assertion was that there is no difference between person and machine being 'inspired' by some creative work, so if we don't pursue George Lucas then why would we pursue copilot? And the thing is that the machine does not benefit from the same rights as a person, so we can't absolve MS from responsibility because "it does a similar thing to what people do". So, to add one more point to spell out: the context matters! ;)

TuringTest 4y ago

> People have certain rights, duties and prohibitions. Equating the right of George Lucas to use ideas he saw with rights of a machine to do that misses the point Hardly relevant, given that the machine has no rights, so no one is equating those with anything. The point is that the machine is doing automated learning on behalf of the developers who are training it, so what should be decided is whether those very human people have a right to train their model in that way.

jackdaniel 4y ago
The op hypothetical assertion was that there is no difference between person and machine being 'inspired' by some creative work, so if we don't pursue George Lucas then why would we pursue copilot? And the thing is that the machine does not benefit from the same rights as a person, so we can't absolve MS from responsibility because "it does a similar thing to what people do". So, to add one more point to spell out: the context matters! ;)