It seems that some people take societal change as an attack on who they are as a person. Calling a mixed group "guys" isn't that big of a deal. But considering

It seems that some people take societal change as an attack on who they are as a person. Calling a mixed group "guys" isn't that big of a deal. But considering how computer science skews heavily towards men, it sounds tone deaf to double down when asked not do it. Because you'll have teams with one or two women for a dozen men, and because these women have been in groups with similar women/men ratios their whole careers, we need to make extra efforts to make sure they feel included. It's not going to fix the gender disparity on its own. It's just a small effort to show some good will. This is not a good hill to die on. I expected a more nuanced take on Hacker News.