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On the contrary, you need an echo chamber in order to push this idea. Most people are tired of being lectured on what's offensive/not inclusive and constantly w

On the contrary, you need an echo chamber in order to push this idea. Most people are tired of being lectured on what's offensive/not inclusive and constantly walking on eggshells, and it's beginning to show. The Buzzfeed era is over.

tomlockwood 4y ago
> Most people are tired of being lectured on what's offensive/not inclusive Conservatives have been saying this forever, and its not coming true. They said it about gay slurs and racism and have been saying it forever about sexism. They're born to lose and can't stop complaining about how Being Appropriate at Work is so hard These Days.
- 35amxn35 4y ago
  No, it's not only definitely coming true, it's been happening for a while now and it's becoming mainstream. Here's a very neutral video on the topic: https://youtu.be/fKBLn--BBdg https://youtu.be/fKBLn--BBdg. I think the peak was around the late 2010s.
  - tomlockwood 4y ago
    Nah, conservatives have thought this forever and they probably listened to voices that complained about women being too into "hookup culture" and "cancelling" also. This channel's bias is clear. No new news here. This echo chamber y'all have made for yourselves is airtight.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> Most people are tired of being lectured on what's offensive/not inclusive and constantly walking on eggshells, and it's beginning to show The first time I heard this from the political right was about “political correctness” when I was in grade school nearly 40 years ago. I don't see any evidence that it is any more true now than it was then.
bitwize 4y ago
Autres temps, autres moeurs. It's 2022, and high time to retire gendered language in mixed-gender contexts. No "guys", no "guys and gals", no "ladies and gentlemen". Gender is a spectrum, not a binary, and there are plenty of neutral expressions you can use like "beautiful people" or "fellow space travelers". The safety of the marginalized trumps the comfort of the privileged. Those tired of being lectured can deal with the change; those marginalized by erasure of their identity by the very language they speak must fight harder to be included in the face of such erasure,
- googlryas 4y ago
  Why don't we just redefine guys to be gender neutral, instead of dropping it entirely? It's not like it has a problematic history.
  - 35amxn35 4y ago
    The GP was being sardonic, but if you spend a little while in twitter and discord and you'll find some people out there really are a few cards shy of a full deck. The problem is that they are also the loudest. Truth be told, I think they always existed but the internet has enabled them to display and strengthen their lunacy.
- 35amxn35 4y ago
  Lol, this is 10/10 satire. The scary part is that many lunatics think this way unironically. Books will be written about this time in history.
  - tomlockwood 4y ago
    > Books will be written about this time in history. Could you just read this again and think about it a little? Amazing zinger there.
- NackerHughes 4y ago
  "Beautiful people" is a horribly discriminative term. It excludes everyone who isn't in line with unrealistic modern Western beauty standards, and makes anyone who's ever been called "ugly" or had a comment made about their appearance feel shut out of the conversation. "Fellow space travelers" is similarly exclusionary. Did you consider at all that the vast majority of people who have ever been to space have been rich white men? Not to mention the extremely problematic imperialistic undertones of the entire American space program. Anyone who isn't from a privileged background is again ostracized by your words.
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tomlockwood 4y ago

> Most people are tired of being lectured on what's offensive/not inclusive Conservatives have been saying this forever, and its not coming true. They said it about gay slurs and racism and have been saying it forever about sexism. They're born to lose and can't stop complaining about how Being Appropriate at Work is so hard These Days.

35amxn35 4y ago
No, it's not only definitely coming true, it's been happening for a while now and it's becoming mainstream. Here's a very neutral video on the topic: https://youtu.be/fKBLn--BBdg https://youtu.be/fKBLn--BBdg. I think the peak was around the late 2010s.
- tomlockwood 4y ago
  Nah, conservatives have thought this forever and they probably listened to voices that complained about women being too into "hookup culture" and "cancelling" also. This channel's bias is clear. No new news here. This echo chamber y'all have made for yourselves is airtight.

dragonwriter 4y ago

> Most people are tired of being lectured on what's offensive/not inclusive and constantly walking on eggshells, and it's beginning to show The first time I heard this from the political right was about “political correctness” when I was in grade school nearly 40 years ago. I don't see any evidence that it is any more true now than it was then.

bitwize 4y ago

Autres temps, autres moeurs. It's 2022, and high time to retire gendered language in mixed-gender contexts. No "guys", no "guys and gals", no "ladies and gentlemen". Gender is a spectrum, not a binary, and there are plenty of neutral expressions you can use like "beautiful people" or "fellow space travelers". The safety of the marginalized trumps the comfort of the privileged. Those tired of being lectured can deal with the change; those marginalized by erasure of their identity by the very language they speak must fight harder to be included in the face of such erasure,

googlryas 4y ago
Why don't we just redefine guys to be gender neutral, instead of dropping it entirely? It's not like it has a problematic history.
- 35amxn35 4y ago
  The GP was being sardonic, but if you spend a little while in twitter and discord and you'll find some people out there really are a few cards shy of a full deck. The problem is that they are also the loudest. Truth be told, I think they always existed but the internet has enabled them to display and strengthen their lunacy.
35amxn35 4y ago
Lol, this is 10/10 satire. The scary part is that many lunatics think this way unironically. Books will be written about this time in history.
- tomlockwood 4y ago
  > Books will be written about this time in history. Could you just read this again and think about it a little? Amazing zinger there.
NackerHughes 4y ago
"Beautiful people" is a horribly discriminative term. It excludes everyone who isn't in line with unrealistic modern Western beauty standards, and makes anyone who's ever been called "ugly" or had a comment made about their appearance feel shut out of the conversation. "Fellow space travelers" is similarly exclusionary. Did you consider at all that the vast majority of people who have ever been to space have been rich white men? Not to mention the extremely problematic imperialistic undertones of the entire American space program. Anyone who isn't from a privileged background is again ostracized by your words.

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