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Or just take a look at all of the academics who have lost their jobs for saying unpopular things in the last few years. You don't have to go back to McCarthy, i

Or just take a look at all of the academics who have lost their jobs for saying unpopular things in the last few years. You don't have to go back to McCarthy, it's right here now.

matthewdgreen 4y ago
Could you provide a list just so I know who you’re talking about.
- zsz 4y ago
  There's no list (comprehensive or otherwise), but FIRE's (www.thefire.org) work relates specifically to freedom of speech-related issues on college campuses that receive any sort of federal funding and are at least theoretically (i.e. by law) required to observe certain related standards. And I say "in theory," because if you take some time perusing their website, you get a good idea of how out of control academia in the U.S. is these days. To whet your appetite, here are just two of them: Mount Holyoke College: Event Hosts Must Recite Mandatory Land Acknowledgement as a Statement of Personal Beliefs (https://www.thefire.org/cases/mount-holyoke-college-event-hosts-must-recite-mandatory-land-acknowledgement-statement https://www.thefire.org/cases/mount-holyoke-college-event-ho...) -Quoting from the summary: "As the statement is written in the first person, it forces speakers to recite the land acknowledgement as if it reflects their own personal beliefs." Survey shows majority of college students feel ‘intimidated’ to share opinion, unlikely to disagree with professor (https://www.thefire.org/news/survey-shows-majority-college-students-feel-intimidated-share-opinion-unlikely-disagree https://www.thefire.org/news/survey-shows-majority-college-s...) -Quotes: -“More students are intimidated from speaking freely and more students are willing to intimidate others from speaking freely than at any time in the history of the survey.” -Almost half (48%) of students erroneously believe that the First Amendment does not protect hate speech; while 44% believe, correctly, that it does. This is the first time more students said that hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment, and represents a 17% increase over the 31% of students who said this in 2017. -Disturbingly, almost half of them [students] said that in some circumstances the death penalty is an appropriate form of punishment for offensive expression [!!!].

Or just take a look at all of the academics who have lost their jobs for saying unpopular things in the last few years. You don't have to go back to McCarthy, it's right here now.

matthewdgreen 4y ago

Could you provide a list just so I know who you’re talking about.

zsz 4y ago
There's no list (comprehensive or otherwise), but FIRE's (www.thefire.org) work relates specifically to freedom of speech-related issues on college campuses that receive any sort of federal funding and are at least theoretically (i.e. by law) required to observe certain related standards. And I say "in theory," because if you take some time perusing their website, you get a good idea of how out of control academia in the U.S. is these days. To whet your appetite, here are just two of them: Mount Holyoke College: Event Hosts Must Recite Mandatory Land Acknowledgement as a Statement of Personal Beliefs (https://www.thefire.org/cases/mount-holyoke-college-event-hosts-must-recite-mandatory-land-acknowledgement-statement https://www.thefire.org/cases/mount-holyoke-college-event-ho...) -Quoting from the summary: "As the statement is written in the first person, it forces speakers to recite the land acknowledgement as if it reflects their own personal beliefs." Survey shows majority of college students feel ‘intimidated’ to share opinion, unlikely to disagree with professor (https://www.thefire.org/news/survey-shows-majority-college-students-feel-intimidated-share-opinion-unlikely-disagree https://www.thefire.org/news/survey-shows-majority-college-s...) -Quotes: -“More students are intimidated from speaking freely and more students are willing to intimidate others from speaking freely than at any time in the history of the survey.” -Almost half (48%) of students erroneously believe that the First Amendment does not protect hate speech; while 44% believe, correctly, that it does. This is the first time more students said that hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment, and represents a 17% increase over the 31% of students who said this in 2017. -Disturbingly, almost half of them [students] said that in some circumstances the death penalty is an appropriate form of punishment for offensive expression [!!!].