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The counterfeit issue basically didn't exist before they started allowing chinese sellers. I don't know why they didn't bother to track the origin of individual

The counterfeit issue basically didn't exist before they started allowing chinese sellers. I don't know why they didn't bother to track the origin of individual items before mixing.

sokoloff 4y ago
Counterfeiting of clothing (particularly Nike and other branded sportswear) was rampant on Amazon for years before the six-letter Chinese sellers of electronics showed up. Some of it was actually quite well-done, but still easy to demonstrate by cross-referencing tag information.
- fsckboy 4y ago
  probably not exclusively, but Chinese-made goods probably were a fair percentage of the counterfeit goods, even if there were not Chinese sellers on Amazon.
  - bearmode 4y ago
    Chinese-made goods are probably a fair percentage of all goods on Amazon.
HappySweeney 4y ago
It would have cost them plenty of money, which I guess was not worth their (at the time) reputation for authenticity.
at-fates-hands 4y ago
I'm not so sure of that. I ordered several products before the platform was inundated with Chinese junk and I later found out all the stuff I bought was counterfeit. I think that there was a lot of Chinese sellers using drop shippers to avoid showing their products were coming from China. One was a Microsoft Sculpt keyboard new in the box with the mouse. I liked it so much a few months later, I couldn't find the original seller, so I bought one off of Microsoft's site - as soon I got it, I could tell the one I got on Amazon was a counterfeit. Same thing with some Lucky jeans. I got a pair off of Amazon and then went to the Lucky store they had in a local mall. As soon as I picked them up, I knew the pair I had were fake. The cotton wasn't the same (the real one's are super soft denim) and when I went to look closer at the tags on mine, the tags were off in several areas. I had two more things I bought there which turned out to be fake and that it was for me, I won't ever buy anything other than books from them now. I know its gotten much worse since I stopped buying stuff on the site.
- behringer 4y ago
  Careful. Even their books are fake. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/6/24/18715584/amazon-counterfeit-book-problem-nyt-project-zero https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/6/24/18715584/amazon-coun...
  - at-fates-hands 4y ago
    Wow, I had no idea. Thanks for the heads up!
- fsckboy 4y ago
  A long time ago, Microsoft discovered counterfeit copies of Microsoft Office, where the cover art on the boxes (pictures of "office workers sitting at desks using the software" type of thing) used photos that were the same except less cropped than the photos on the real product. This means the counterfeiters weren't just buying a copy and then copying it, rather they had access to material upstream from Microsoft and used designers etc. to create their goods; these were not amateur operations.

The counterfeit issue basically didn't exist before they started allowing chinese sellers. I don't know why they didn't bother to track the origin of individual items before mixing.

sokoloff 4y ago

Counterfeiting of clothing (particularly Nike and other branded sportswear) was rampant on Amazon for years before the six-letter Chinese sellers of electronics showed up. Some of it was actually quite well-done, but still easy to demonstrate by cross-referencing tag information.

fsckboy 4y ago
probably not exclusively, but Chinese-made goods probably were a fair percentage of the counterfeit goods, even if there were not Chinese sellers on Amazon.
- bearmode 4y ago
  Chinese-made goods are probably a fair percentage of all goods on Amazon.

HappySweeney 4y ago

It would have cost them plenty of money, which I guess was not worth their (at the time) reputation for authenticity.

at-fates-hands 4y ago

I'm not so sure of that. I ordered several products before the platform was inundated with Chinese junk and I later found out all the stuff I bought was counterfeit. I think that there was a lot of Chinese sellers using drop shippers to avoid showing their products were coming from China. One was a Microsoft Sculpt keyboard new in the box with the mouse. I liked it so much a few months later, I couldn't find the original seller, so I bought one off of Microsoft's site - as soon I got it, I could tell the one I got on Amazon was a counterfeit. Same thing with some Lucky jeans. I got a pair off of Amazon and then went to the Lucky store they had in a local mall. As soon as I picked them up, I knew the pair I had were fake. The cotton wasn't the same (the real one's are super soft denim) and when I went to look closer at the tags on mine, the tags were off in several areas. I had two more things I bought there which turned out to be fake and that it was for me, I won't ever buy anything other than books from them now. I know its gotten much worse since I stopped buying stuff on the site.

behringer 4y ago
Careful. Even their books are fake. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/6/24/18715584/amazon-counterfeit-book-problem-nyt-project-zero https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/6/24/18715584/amazon-coun...
- at-fates-hands 4y ago
  Wow, I had no idea. Thanks for the heads up!
fsckboy 4y ago
A long time ago, Microsoft discovered counterfeit copies of Microsoft Office, where the cover art on the boxes (pictures of "office workers sitting at desks using the software" type of thing) used photos that were the same except less cropped than the photos on the real product. This means the counterfeiters weren't just buying a copy and then copying it, rather they had access to material upstream from Microsoft and used designers etc. to create their goods; these were not amateur operations.