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Since when do yanks not have a sense of humour? I thought you people were all chuckles. I mean, post a roundly ridiculous, off the cuff, nationalistic comment a

Since when do yanks not have a sense of humour? I thought you people were all chuckles. I mean, post a roundly ridiculous, off the cuff, nationalistic comment and expect something similar in return, no? If you want to get serious, I'm kind of sick of this "But the US doesn't need the oil in Iraq anyway" argument. I'm sure you know as well as anyone else around these parts that it's not about required resources, it's about control of resources, which in turn provides desired leverage.

anamax 18y ago
Ah yes, joke. Ha ha. It's nationalistic and ridiculous to suggest that the EU should show the US how things should be done instead of criticising? Wowsers. It's not so much control of the Middle East oil resources as stability of the resources so those who actually depend on them (that is, not the US) don't go belly up. Like I said, we have options. It would hurt us if the EU went belly up, but not as much as it would hurt the EU.
- jonny_noog 18y ago
  Trying to move attention away from the ridiculous and nationalistic parts of your post to a part of it that was less so, isn't going to work. Take a look over your post again and I'm sure you'll see the portions of it that refer to. The fact of the matter now is politics doesn't run on altruism. If you truly believe that there isn't an overwhelmingly large portion of your establishment doing their damn best to make sure the US stays the one and only true super power and that their reasons for doing this are not largely selfish, then you are lost, my friend. Call it "stability" if you like, but it doesn't change what it really is underneath. Need for control, the desired end product being alleviation of fear. I have a problem with anyone telling me they know what's best for me. Smart people in the rest of the world try hard to make a distinction between the US government and the US people (especially at the moment), maybe you should start doing the same.

anamax 18y ago

Ah yes, joke. Ha ha. It's nationalistic and ridiculous to suggest that the EU should show the US how things should be done instead of criticising? Wowsers. It's not so much control of the Middle East oil resources as stability of the resources so those who actually depend on them (that is, not the US) don't go belly up. Like I said, we have options. It would hurt us if the EU went belly up, but not as much as it would hurt the EU.

jonny_noog 18y ago
Trying to move attention away from the ridiculous and nationalistic parts of your post to a part of it that was less so, isn't going to work. Take a look over your post again and I'm sure you'll see the portions of it that refer to. The fact of the matter now is politics doesn't run on altruism. If you truly believe that there isn't an overwhelmingly large portion of your establishment doing their damn best to make sure the US stays the one and only true super power and that their reasons for doing this are not largely selfish, then you are lost, my friend. Call it "stability" if you like, but it doesn't change what it really is underneath. Need for control, the desired end product being alleviation of fear. I have a problem with anyone telling me they know what's best for me. Smart people in the rest of the world try hard to make a distinction between the US government and the US people (especially at the moment), maybe you should start doing the same.