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"Yes, we are going to make your job six times less efficient and substantially more difficult, while simultaneously removing your main incentive for working her

"Yes, we are going to make your job six times less efficient and substantially more difficult, while simultaneously removing your main incentive for working here. No, you will not receive a raise or any other form of olive branch from us, management, in exchange for the fact that we have measurably reduced your quality of life. No, we are not negotiating this." If any job I ever had did this, technical or otherwise, I'd leave too. Especially if you were going to rub salt in the wound and pick Go. It's akin to making someone mine coal with a rock instead of a machine.

res0nat0r 4y ago
I think this comment actually unintentionally is reinforcing his point. Other programming languages than Erlang exist for a reason, they're not just fun toy languages for low IQ folks. There are tons of reasons why Erlang may not be a good fit for some project, and one of these other lesser languages would be a better fit, and he doesn't want to work with people who wouldn't even consider something like that.
- anyfoo 4y ago
  > There are tons of reasons why Erlang may not be a good fit for some project, and one of these other lesser languages would be a better fit But that's not what they said. The statement was literally "to pivot away from erlang". Imagine you are working with, say, python (which I don't really like but it's a popular example) and were forced to switch to Visual Basic.
- headhasthoughts 4y ago
  I don't even like Erlang. I'm just pointing out that removing the main incentive for being there for an employee without giving them something in return is naturally going to cause them to bail. You don't spit in a person's face and expect them to be happy about it.
- nivertech 4y ago
  Two possibilities here: 1. either the person who asked this question doesn't understand that most of the utility in this ecosystem comes from the BEAM VM, the OTP, and the community around them, not just from the Erlang-the-programming-language. 2. or he/she employs the sunk cost fallacy here: I already invested time into learning Erlang and its Prolog-inspired syntax, so "screw Elixir". Disclaimer: I mistakenly avoided learning Elixir for this reason, simply because I already had lots of Erlang/OTP code already written over the years.
  - Fantarina 4y ago
    Yeah it's the point 2 , I guess but I really tried to get into Elixir but I really don't like its syntax

res0nat0r 4y ago

I think this comment actually unintentionally is reinforcing his point. Other programming languages than Erlang exist for a reason, they're not just fun toy languages for low IQ folks. There are tons of reasons why Erlang may not be a good fit for some project, and one of these other lesser languages would be a better fit, and he doesn't want to work with people who wouldn't even consider something like that.

anyfoo 4y ago
> There are tons of reasons why Erlang may not be a good fit for some project, and one of these other lesser languages would be a better fit But that's not what they said. The statement was literally "to pivot away from erlang". Imagine you are working with, say, python (which I don't really like but it's a popular example) and were forced to switch to Visual Basic.
headhasthoughts 4y ago
I don't even like Erlang. I'm just pointing out that removing the main incentive for being there for an employee without giving them something in return is naturally going to cause them to bail. You don't spit in a person's face and expect them to be happy about it.
nivertech 4y ago
Two possibilities here: 1. either the person who asked this question doesn't understand that most of the utility in this ecosystem comes from the BEAM VM, the OTP, and the community around them, not just from the Erlang-the-programming-language. 2. or he/she employs the sunk cost fallacy here: I already invested time into learning Erlang and its Prolog-inspired syntax, so "screw Elixir". Disclaimer: I mistakenly avoided learning Elixir for this reason, simply because I already had lots of Erlang/OTP code already written over the years.
- Fantarina 4y ago
  Yeah it's the point 2 , I guess but I really tried to get into Elixir but I really don't like its syntax