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As much as people hate Mark Zuckerberg and accuse him of being a robot, he showed much more humanity in his message in respect to Ironman Elon.

by kensai 4y ago

andrewinardeer 4y ago
You really think he penned this? This is a PR release made by a team of people that he put his name to.
- universenz 4y ago
  While he may not of penned it himself, he is certainly funding 50% of the rather generous severance and that should count for something by comparison.
  - nowherebeen 4y ago
    If you are thinking this is him and not the corporate strategy team, then you are a mistaken.
    - darkwater 4y ago
      The corporate strategy team leads the implementation, but the final go/nogo is on the CEO for sure. Or at least, that I would expect.
      - nowherebeen 4y ago
        The CEO is told they need to layoff by the CFO. The CEO agrees, then the corporate strategy team devise a strategy with the PR team. After the strategy is devised, the severance and headcount numbers are sent to the CFO for approval. The CFO should be the final go/nogo. Off course, the CEO can come in and change his mind, but that wouldn't be wise since the CFO has the best understanding of the economic situation and company's financial health.
- missedthecue 4y ago
  I don't think it's a ridiculous idea that he penned it. Zuck is known for being very hands on at Facebook/Meta. No doubt a PR team and legal council etc... Looked it over before release but I have no problem believing Mark wrote this.
- TulliusCicero 4y ago
  I'm sure it was looked over, but yeah I'd say there's greater than 50/50 odds he wrote it himself.
uxcolumbo 4y ago
Totally agree, Phony Stark behaves abysmally towards his staff - not just at Twitter, but also at Tesla. When Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower https://archive.ph/G3HpY https://archive.ph/G3HpY This is quite viscous and what does that say about what kind of person he is? Or when he hired a PI to dig up some dirt on the rescue diver saving those kids from the cave - just because the diver didn't think Elon's mini submarine idea wouldn't work. And he called the diver a Pedo as well. Someone with that kind of mindset and in power.... is dangerous.
- pelasaco 4y ago
  Let's start talk about all Zuckerberg, Mcafee, Steve Jobs, and any other unfair acts committed by any tech millionaire? Let's talk how Jack Dorsey influenced the whole political engagement for the democrats (including the moderation process) at Twitter? Or maybe we can simply agree that people do questionable things when they have money, power and influence?
  - uxcolumbo 4y ago
    Yes agree. What's the solution? But not sure about your comments about Dorsey. See https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and-jack-are-not-competitors-theyre-collaborating-3e88cde5267d https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and-jack-are-not-competi...
    - pelasaco 4y ago
      I think Dorsey, based on his politics view influenced how twitter (and who worked on twitter doing that) does moderation and per consequence lead to this discussion about how good the "censorship for good" is. I think highly controversy somebody that donated a lot of money to the Democrats to control the public discourse. In that matters, I think Musk - foreigner and genius - much less connected and skeptical with any side (red or blue)[1] than Dorsey or any other twitter leader before Musk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_Elon_Musk
Bilal_io 4y ago
I agree. He doesn't win me over because of this, but he deserves credit. I think many executives need to learn this from him. Regarding Zuck being a robot. I don't think he's less human or less humane than regular people, but him and most (if not all) rich people are ditatched from reality, and have lost touch (if they ever had any) with the understanding of struggle and what people have to go though in their day to day lives. And the sad thing is they surround themselves with individuals that sheild them from criticism, and most likely even praise their mistakes and shortcomings. I remember reading about a Muslim king or Sultan that had hired a guy to stand by his side and whenever a guest praises him, he would remind him of God, that he's nothing but a human, that he will be judged just like everyone else, and that he's not superior in anyway... Etc.
Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
You treat recently conquered people differently from the people you have governed for many years.
fleddr 4y ago
What exactly is the added humanity that you see? "I take responsibility"? Which means...nothing? For the rest the layoffs are near identical. You hear that you're no longer needed, access is revoked, and severance in both cases is relatively generous.

As much as people hate Mark Zuckerberg and accuse him of being a robot, he showed much more humanity in his message in respect to Ironman Elon.

by kensai 4y ago

As much as people hate Mark Zuckerberg and accuse him of being a robot, he showed much more humanity in his message in respect to Ironman Elon.

andrewinardeer 4y ago

You really think he penned this? This is a PR release made by a team of people that he put his name to.

universenz 4y ago
While he may not of penned it himself, he is certainly funding 50% of the rather generous severance and that should count for something by comparison.
- nowherebeen 4y ago
  If you are thinking this is him and not the corporate strategy team, then you are a mistaken.
  - darkwater 4y ago
    The corporate strategy team leads the implementation, but the final go/nogo is on the CEO for sure. Or at least, that I would expect.
    - nowherebeen 4y ago
      The CEO is told they need to layoff by the CFO. The CEO agrees, then the corporate strategy team devise a strategy with the PR team. After the strategy is devised, the severance and headcount numbers are sent to the CFO for approval. The CFO should be the final go/nogo. Off course, the CEO can come in and change his mind, but that wouldn't be wise since the CFO has the best understanding of the economic situation and company's financial health.
missedthecue 4y ago
I don't think it's a ridiculous idea that he penned it. Zuck is known for being very hands on at Facebook/Meta. No doubt a PR team and legal council etc... Looked it over before release but I have no problem believing Mark wrote this.
TulliusCicero 4y ago
I'm sure it was looked over, but yeah I'd say there's greater than 50/50 odds he wrote it himself.

uxcolumbo 4y ago

Totally agree, Phony Stark behaves abysmally towards his staff - not just at Twitter, but also at Tesla. When Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower https://archive.ph/G3HpY https://archive.ph/G3HpY This is quite viscous and what does that say about what kind of person he is? Or when he hired a PI to dig up some dirt on the rescue diver saving those kids from the cave - just because the diver didn't think Elon's mini submarine idea wouldn't work. And he called the diver a Pedo as well. Someone with that kind of mindset and in power.... is dangerous.

pelasaco 4y ago
Let's start talk about all Zuckerberg, Mcafee, Steve Jobs, and any other unfair acts committed by any tech millionaire? Let's talk how Jack Dorsey influenced the whole political engagement for the democrats (including the moderation process) at Twitter? Or maybe we can simply agree that people do questionable things when they have money, power and influence?
- uxcolumbo 4y ago
  Yes agree. What's the solution? But not sure about your comments about Dorsey. See https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and-jack-are-not-competitors-theyre-collaborating-3e88cde5267d https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and-jack-are-not-competi...
  - pelasaco 4y ago
    I think Dorsey, based on his politics view influenced how twitter (and who worked on twitter doing that) does moderation and per consequence lead to this discussion about how good the "censorship for good" is. I think highly controversy somebody that donated a lot of money to the Democrats to control the public discourse. In that matters, I think Musk - foreigner and genius - much less connected and skeptical with any side (red or blue)[1] than Dorsey or any other twitter leader before Musk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_Elon_Musk

Bilal_io 4y ago

I agree. He doesn't win me over because of this, but he deserves credit. I think many executives need to learn this from him. Regarding Zuck being a robot. I don't think he's less human or less humane than regular people, but him and most (if not all) rich people are ditatched from reality, and have lost touch (if they ever had any) with the understanding of struggle and what people have to go though in their day to day lives. And the sad thing is they surround themselves with individuals that sheild them from criticism, and most likely even praise their mistakes and shortcomings. I remember reading about a Muslim king or Sultan that had hired a guy to stand by his side and whenever a guest praises him, he would remind him of God, that he's nothing but a human, that he will be judged just like everyone else, and that he's not superior in anyway... Etc.

Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago

You treat recently conquered people differently from the people you have governed for many years.

fleddr 4y ago

What exactly is the added humanity that you see? "I take responsibility"? Which means...nothing? For the rest the layoffs are near identical. You hear that you're no longer needed, access is revoked, and severance in both cases is relatively generous.