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At least some data is definitely shared with Google's safe browsing service by default, more and with greater detail still when "enhanced protection" or "make s

• cmeacham98 4y ago
  "Some data" is WAY different than "Google receives the URL of every page you visit". I'm not saying Google's Safe Browsing feature is immune to criticism, but when someone posts such blatantly false information it discredits everything else they have to say on the topic.
  • amatecha 4y ago
    Please stop misrepresenting what I said and reacting vocally as a result of your misunderstanding. I didn't assert that every URL is sent. I _assume_ every URL is sent, because that's my "threat model" regarding this feature. I have no reason to trust them, and have every reason to _assume_ that every URL is sent if I use a feature like that.
    • cmeacham98 4y ago
      • amatecha 4y ago
        I didn't "understand" anything incorrectly -- I made zero attempt to understand the feature. How many times do I have to quote the word "assume"? I ASSUMED the worst without knowing anything about the feature, based on my prior experience with "protecting the user" features and the way megacorps treat their users. I thought "probably sends my stuff to their servers" and unchecked the box. Again, for the nth time, I have made no concrete assertion as to the actual functioning of the feature. The only misinformation here has been your repeated misrepresentation of what I communicated.
        • cmeacham98 4y ago
          Sorry, let me restate my original post then: I ASSUME that you're completely wrong about Safe Browsing and have no idea what you're talking about. I ASSUME you're intentionally posting misinformation on the internet. I ASSUME you're as evil as Adolf Hitler. If you prove that what I ASSUMED is demonstrably false, I'll just fall back on saying it's an assumption so that makes being wrong completely ok (and it means that you are misrepresenting me when you call that out)!
          • amatecha 4y ago
            Ah man... I mean, at no time did I indicate or suggest how Safe Browsing works. What I communicated to the world is that I am making a totally subjective judgement of a feature, perhaps totally ignorantly, without any suggestion of correlation with reality. For some reason, you missed this subtlety of me saying "I assume [thing does blah]". I'm not out here trying to convince anyone that Safe Browsing does bad things. I pretty clearly said I, myself, in my own head, made a subjective decision about the feature. That's all I said! Come back to this thread in a day or month or year and realize I was pretty forthright/honest and communicating in good faith the entire time.
            • cmeacham98 4y ago
              Please stop misrepresenting what I said and reacting vocally as a result of your misunderstanding. I didn't assert that you were wrong. I _assume_ you have no idea what you're talking about. I would appreciate if you stop acting like I was asserting something when I clearly was ASSUMING it, I even put ASSUME in all caps in my comment to make it clear.
              • amatecha 4y ago
                These words you posted are a direct assertion: "when someone posts such blatantly false information", in regards to my comment. I didn't post false information, thus you misrepresented what I said. Please spend more time understanding the words people write before you respond to them in an inflammatory manner.
    • kccqzy 4y ago
      Guess what. Nobody cares about your assumptions that are demonstrably untrue, as have been explained multiple times in this thread. The Chromium project's Safe Browsing code is open source: https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:components/safe_browsing/core/browser/db/v4_get_hash_protocol_manager.cc https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:com... Of course given your "threat model" you are probably going to assume what's shipped in Chrome could be different from the open source code, but hey you are free to believe in whatever falsehoods you choose to believe in.
      • amatecha 4y ago
        That's right. I am free to believe whatever I want, and I am free to share my thoughts directly related to the OP, in a sincere and respectful manner -- quite in contrast with how you've responded. Take your vitriolic sentiments elsewhere.
      • silverwasthere 4y ago
        Dude they use predictive text in the address bar so your point is kinda moot. Yes, they DO see the address you are navigating to when done directly. Just not in the way you are arguing about.
        • cmeacham98 4y ago
          Given that Safe Browsing is used in other browsers, and that you can disable that feature and/or change your default search engine, yes it does matter. Also, even if you are using Chrome with the default search settings, there are lots of cases where it would matter. I suspect people would care a lot more about Google logging the URL for their Amazon search for <embarrassing thing they purchase> than when they typed `amazon.com` in their URL bar to get to Amazon.
  • krono 4y ago
    It is also quite a ways away from "This isn't even remotely close to true.", which is what I felt the need to correct.