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This attitude is why I hardly have any native apps on my phone and use a browser with ublock origin for it. You can see how valuable this tracking is by the am
by tyfon 4y ago
This attitude is why I hardly have any native apps on my phone and use a browser with ublock origin for it.
You can see how valuable this tracking is by the amount of websites begging you to install their native apps. No thanks!
- recursive 4y agoWebsites can still track everywhere you're tapping though. Wasn't that the original scare?
- tyfon 4y agoYeah I know they do, but websites can collect much less data than native apps. I just try to minimize it.
- scarface74 4y agoWhat data can apps collect without you giving them permission that websites can’t?
- wasmitnetzen 4y agoA unique identifier which is 100% stable over multiple sessions for once. Which makes the rest of the data so much more useful.
- scarface74 4y agoThere are plenty of ways to uniquely enough identify a user on the web.
- alickz 4y agoWhy is that possible in native apps but not websites?
- wasmitnetzen 4y agoIn the end, this is because the browser works for you, and the app works for the company.
- scarface74 4y agoYou mean the browser developed by a adTech company, the browser developed by the company who gets $18B a year from an adTech company to be the default search engine or the browser created by a company who only survives because of the adTech company?
- deafpolygon 4y agoMy guess? They don't only get a unique identifier, but they get to know and link you to other more useful data using your Apple/Android device ID and so on, that they can use to track you across multiple user accounts. Something that browser fingerprinting can't guarantee 100% (but getting very accurate these days)
- scarface74 4y agoApple specifically limits apps ability to get a unique identifier that can be used across apps. And the percentage of people who use multiple accounts is not even worth optimizing for.
- tyfon 4y agoI don't seem to be able to reply to your post, but to the sibling; I'm not an app developer so I don't know specific, but by the amount of websites begging you to use their native apps it is quite obvious that there is something they get from the native apps they can't get from the website that they are very interested in. Just try to go to the reddit website on a mobile (not old.) and see how fast they spam you with the app prompt.
- scarface74 4y agoSo you don’t use native apps because they can track everything you do in the app so you use websites that can track everything you do on their site?
- dibt 4y agoThey said "...a browser with ublock origin.." uBlock Origin is a content blocker that would help prevent tracking.
- ehutch79 4y agoBut wouldn't they be able to infer what you clicked by the data loaded? If you block that data, most webapps, especially things like an app store, will be useless.
- jesterson 4y agoCutting the shit out of website is much easier compared to app. I am doing it by default.
- scarface74 4y agoWhat extension allows you to block “hover” tracking and not “click” tracking? If the website is not using a third party site for tracking, you can’t block the owner from tracking and storing your interactions.
- jesterson 4y agohover tracking is done by js, hence any js stopping would do. I personally use that + VPN that cuts the rest that sneaks in