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> Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged. Can you elaborate? Are they downvoted, or just not presented in the first place?

systemvoltage 4y ago
Yea sure. I won't give specific examples, otherwise the discussion will get derailed into bickering about extreme specifics to overthrow overall argument. Try to see which comments are flagged and analyze why should they be flagged because of politics, spam, rudeness, ideology, not-factual, bigotry, etc. I'd say a significant portion of them are completely legitimate or interesting, just doesn't fit the ideology/politics here. It's also possible to that I've changed, may be taken a red pill, I try to have a super sensitive self-introspection and try to objectively analyze what went wrong in flagged or downvoted comments. Anyways, it's been mostly nice and to be honest, addicting. I still continue to visit HN, but will probably dial it back way down and just read weekly newsletters and avoid exposing myself to extreme-ideological positions here.
- clolege 4y ago
  > I won't give specific examples That's too bad! I usually find honing in on specific examples as the most effective way to explore a topic. But I understand the possibility that it could take the conversation down a rabbit hole. > I'd say a significant portion of them are completely legitimate or interesting, just doesn't fit the ideology/politics here I've yet to come across many flagged comments (or had any of my own flagged) but this feels like a strange motivation on its own. I feel like flagging should be reserved for comments that break the site guidelines?
Firmwarrior 4y ago
He's full of beans, man. This site loves contrarian views, so long as they're even slightly supported by facts or anecdata. The main thing that gets downvoted is angry tirades without evidence, and it happens to most political views/religious views no matter what side they're on.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
  You’re assuming everyone in HN downvotes just like you. How do you know that?
  - Jensson 4y ago
    You can see which comments get downvoted, read them and thus learn others preferences.
  - w1nst0nsm1th 4y ago
    How do you downvote ? I only have an up arrow.
    - clolege 4y ago
      You need 500 karma to do it
      - 4ggr0 4y ago
        Do you know how the flag-function works? Sometimes I'm able to flag comments, other times the button isn't present.
        clolege 4y ago
        It looks like I can only flag comments once I tap reply? You apparently also need 31 karma to do so https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23439437 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23439437
  - Firmwarrior 4y ago
    I'm just going by the posts I've seen dead and grayed out Usually it's flame wars and nonsensical rants where the commenter appears to be off their medication Meanwhile people are happy to have all sorts of conversations that will get you canceled elsewhere about gender, race, and vaccines (so long as the conversations are analytical anyway)

systemvoltage 4y ago

Yea sure. I won't give specific examples, otherwise the discussion will get derailed into bickering about extreme specifics to overthrow overall argument. Try to see which comments are flagged and analyze why should they be flagged because of politics, spam, rudeness, ideology, not-factual, bigotry, etc. I'd say a significant portion of them are completely legitimate or interesting, just doesn't fit the ideology/politics here. It's also possible to that I've changed, may be taken a red pill, I try to have a super sensitive self-introspection and try to objectively analyze what went wrong in flagged or downvoted comments. Anyways, it's been mostly nice and to be honest, addicting. I still continue to visit HN, but will probably dial it back way down and just read weekly newsletters and avoid exposing myself to extreme-ideological positions here.

clolege 4y ago
> I won't give specific examples That's too bad! I usually find honing in on specific examples as the most effective way to explore a topic. But I understand the possibility that it could take the conversation down a rabbit hole. > I'd say a significant portion of them are completely legitimate or interesting, just doesn't fit the ideology/politics here I've yet to come across many flagged comments (or had any of my own flagged) but this feels like a strange motivation on its own. I feel like flagging should be reserved for comments that break the site guidelines?

Firmwarrior 4y ago

He's full of beans, man. This site loves contrarian views, so long as they're even slightly supported by facts or anecdata. The main thing that gets downvoted is angry tirades without evidence, and it happens to most political views/religious views no matter what side they're on.

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
You’re assuming everyone in HN downvotes just like you. How do you know that?
- Jensson 4y ago
  You can see which comments get downvoted, read them and thus learn others preferences.
- w1nst0nsm1th 4y ago
  How do you downvote ? I only have an up arrow.
  - clolege 4y ago
    You need 500 karma to do it
    - 4ggr0 4y ago
      Do you know how the flag-function works? Sometimes I'm able to flag comments, other times the button isn't present.
      - clolege 4y ago
        It looks like I can only flag comments once I tap reply? You apparently also need 31 karma to do so https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23439437 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23439437
- Firmwarrior 4y ago
  I'm just going by the posts I've seen dead and grayed out Usually it's flame wars and nonsensical rants where the commenter appears to be off their medication Meanwhile people are happy to have all sorts of conversations that will get you canceled elsewhere about gender, race, and vaccines (so long as the conversations are analytical anyway)