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Apple to set up first dev center outside of CA in Israel
- adamjernst 15y agoI believe iWorks is developed in Pittsburgh (or something like that). Some of the token-recognition code (e.g. detecting calendar events in free text) was developed in France. So I'm not sure it's entirely true that this is the first non-Cupertino dev center.
- 9oliYQjP 15y agoAn Israel engineering team saved Intel in the mid 2000s from its Netburst architecture decision. They built a higher performing CPU than the Pentium 4 that was also more energy efficient. Apple's decision is probably to just move closer to where that talent is. I wonder if they'll actually try to poach those Intel engineers.
- jws 15y agoCPU designer poaching has a long and glorious history. In the '90s Intel drove a pretty good stake into the PowerPC by building a CPU design center in Austin and hiring away critical parts of the Motorola team which was working up the street. In the '70s MOS picked up a disgruntled Motorola team and made the 6502. Motorola won lawsuits in both events, but lost the wars.
- guelo 15y agoThat's too bad since Israel runs a repressive apartheid regime.
- xenophanes 15y agoflagged
- mishmax 15y agoNot sure why. What he says is true. Too bad these corps are supporting apartheid regimes such as Israel.
- xenophanes 15y agoYou're bringing up nasty and controversial politics in a thread where it's basically irrelevant. Flagged.
- shortlived 15y agoIf the title was "Apple opens dev center in milwaukee", there would be no headline. Israel, by it's nature, is a political topic.
- guelo 15y agoIf Apple was doing business with North Korea would you flag any comments about the regime? Meta: When you flag something you're not supposed to also comment on it since it is better to shun and ignore spam or offtopic material than it is to try to bring attention to it, according to the site guidelines: If you think something is spam or offtopic, flag it by going to its page and clicking on the "flag" link. (Not all users will see this; there is a karma threshold.) If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did. Also, since I'm making a comment on the actual story it is not spam or offtopic.
- cynest 15y ago> If Apple was doing business with North Korea would you flag any comments about the regime? Israel is not closed to Western investment. Apple getting this through did not require significant action on the part of local government. In the North Korean case, the regime has to be talked about.
- dpkendal 15y agoThis is not the first dev centre outside of California. The team that originally developed iCal was apparently based in France. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICal
- pkaler 15y agoThis can't be Apple's first development centre outside of California. I'm sitting about half a block away from their Vancouver office. They acquired SchemaSoft a while ago and parts of iWork for OS X and iOS are built there.
- alain94040 15y agoAustin also has some R&D, for hardware I believe.
- danudey 15y agoNot to mention a lot of high-end, abstract R&D. They have some serious talent hidden away in that office.
- krembo 15y agoBy the article the dev center will be located in Matan which is an incredible place located in Haifa. It's location closed to the Technion brings the best brains to work for the dev centers of most of the international enterprises located there. (The Technion institute brought 3 Nobel prize winners in the last 7 years with a yearly budget of about only 200M$) So it's like the silicon valley except the size. The size of the Matam area is less than 2000ft^2 and in this small area there are dev centers of Intel, IBM, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, Elbit,NDS, Philips, GE, Zoran and many more. Now, get back 2 lines before to read about the size of the area where all these are located in. And if this isn't incredible then I don't know what is!
- maayank 15y agoBy the name I assume you're an Israeli and while it's true that Matam has an high ratio of global corporations per sqm, I think that when people (both in Israel and outside it) think of "the Israeli silicon valley" they think more of Tel Aviv and its surrounding area (i.e. Herzliya). If Apple will purchase Anobit then they will have a beachhead in Herzliya... although two offices, both in Matam and Tel Aviv/Herzliya is pretty common (i.e. Google, IBM, etc.)
- wyclif 15y agoYep, and Haifa is a beautiful little town on the Mediterranean with the famous Baha'i Gardens and Mount Carmel. I used to go by this area with my then-girlfriend, now-wife on my way to the beach.
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- idan 15y agoThere's a high density of good hardware engineering talent here in Israel, and specifically flash memory expertise (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SanDisk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SanDisk and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Systems http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Systems). Given Apple's voracious appetite for solid-state storage, I am surprised this didn't happen sooner. Only thing I'm not sure of is why this is interesting news, particularly to the wider, non-Israeli HN community. Feels like a case of "OMG LOOK ISRAEL IN THE TITLE". edit: Oh, just now noticing the inevitable politics in the comment thread. Le Sigh.