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or just get rid of Facebook.

by oneplusone 15y ago

jisaacstone 15y ago
But they still keep all my data, yeah?
- inerte 15y ago
  All of your data plus a byte saying it was deleted.
ajross 15y ago
And cut yourself off from the people you interact with there. Social networks have very high value. You can't expect people to throw them out -- they love them. This is why people talk seriously about regulating privacy handling, to prevent this sort of abuse.
- Splines 15y ago
  Social networks have very high value. They only have value that is voluntarily put into them. There are certainly young-ish people that for them, Facebook is their social world. On the flip side, there are certainly people who rarely visit it, and deleting their account is no more problematic than abandoning a random forum account. Personally, I'm falling into the second bucket as I get older. I like seeing updates for the people around me, but if I deleted my account I wouldn't miss it.
- dextorious 15y ago
  >And cut yourself off from the people you interact with there. So what? You only have that much time on earth to spend it socializing with people you don't really care about online. For people you do care about, you can always meet offline, or call. Oh, and if they won't talk to you outside FB, take it as a hint you don't mean much to them anyway.
  - Karunamon 15y ago
    >For people you do care about, you can always meet offline, or call. This is an incredibly myopic worldview especially nowadays. I don't know about you, but online is where I do 99% of my socialization outside of the office. Why? Because phone calls are distracting and rude (when IM is right there and won't interrupt everyone), and meeting up in real life is something that requires a sometimes herculean effort of schedule juggling.
    - rohit89 15y ago
      >> Because phone calls are distracting and rude (when IM is right there and won't interrupt everyone) Why? If the other person is busy, they don't have to pick it up. Or you send them a text to make sure they are free (it's what I do). For close friends, I already have a pretty good idea when they'll be busy or free.
      - dextorious 15y ago
        Actually if they are too busy for the occasional phone call from you, then gee, maybe they are NOT your friends. Despite what they are called on your online "social graph". We're not talking about stalking/trying to be together every minute, but, by definition friends are people that LIKE to see you and TALK to you.
    - dextorious 15y ago
      """This is an incredibly myopic worldview especially nowadays. I don't know about you, but online is where I do 99% of my socialization outside of the office.""" Then I'm sorry to inform you, you are not doing much socialization at all. If phone calls from you are taken as "distracting and rude" or if you see phone calls from others as "distracting and rude", then a) they don't like you and b) you are not a social person anyway. And if a real life meeting "requires a sometimes herculean effort of schedule juggling", maybe you have your priorities wrong.
      - Karunamon 15y ago
khafra 15y ago
...and be the guy without a credit history. Pretty high risk; what are you trying to hide?
- sukuriant 15y ago
  There are ways to improve your credit, including prepaid credit cards/etc.
  - SilasX 15y ago
    I think khafra's point was that not-disclosing your Facebook info will become in the future, what not-allowing a credit check is now. That is, today, only people who are big credit risks would try to avoid a credit check when applying for a loan -- because a credit check is an expected thing. In the future, linking your facebook account will be an expected thing in applying for a loan. So banks will assume anyone not allowing it is likewise a credit risk and thus ineligible for a loan, except possibly at usurious rates.
    - sukuriant 15y ago
      Oh, I see. Wow, that's horrifying, especially in the case of people like me, that are avoiding those particular social networking sites.
      - SilasX 15y ago
        I don't think it would be a problem if you were connected to some social networking site, or if you could somehow prove that you're not on facebook.
    - maxerickson 15y ago
      To me it seems a lot more likely that not sharing Facebook info would result in slightly higher interest rates, not zero credit. My thinking is that the Facebook info will not actually be more useful than things in a traditional credit score, so it will only be used in addition to those things. That leaves people with no payment history, but historically banks have been plenty willing to take a try it and see approach with those people.

or just get rid of Facebook.

jisaacstone 15y ago

But they still keep all my data, yeah?

inerte 15y ago
All of your data plus a byte saying it was deleted.

ajross 15y ago

And cut yourself off from the people you interact with there. Social networks have very high value. You can't expect people to throw them out -- they love them. This is why people talk seriously about regulating privacy handling, to prevent this sort of abuse.

Splines 15y ago
Social networks have very high value. They only have value that is voluntarily put into them. There are certainly young-ish people that for them, Facebook is their social world. On the flip side, there are certainly people who rarely visit it, and deleting their account is no more problematic than abandoning a random forum account. Personally, I'm falling into the second bucket as I get older. I like seeing updates for the people around me, but if I deleted my account I wouldn't miss it.
dextorious 15y ago
>And cut yourself off from the people you interact with there. So what? You only have that much time on earth to spend it socializing with people you don't really care about online. For people you do care about, you can always meet offline, or call. Oh, and if they won't talk to you outside FB, take it as a hint you don't mean much to them anyway.
- Karunamon 15y ago
  >For people you do care about, you can always meet offline, or call. This is an incredibly myopic worldview especially nowadays. I don't know about you, but online is where I do 99% of my socialization outside of the office. Why? Because phone calls are distracting and rude (when IM is right there and won't interrupt everyone), and meeting up in real life is something that requires a sometimes herculean effort of schedule juggling.
  - rohit89 15y ago
    >> Because phone calls are distracting and rude (when IM is right there and won't interrupt everyone) Why? If the other person is busy, they don't have to pick it up. Or you send them a text to make sure they are free (it's what I do). For close friends, I already have a pretty good idea when they'll be busy or free.
    - dextorious 15y ago
      Actually if they are too busy for the occasional phone call from you, then gee, maybe they are NOT your friends. Despite what they are called on your online "social graph". We're not talking about stalking/trying to be together every minute, but, by definition friends are people that LIKE to see you and TALK to you.
  - dextorious 15y ago
    """This is an incredibly myopic worldview especially nowadays. I don't know about you, but online is where I do 99% of my socialization outside of the office.""" Then I'm sorry to inform you, you are not doing much socialization at all. If phone calls from you are taken as "distracting and rude" or if you see phone calls from others as "distracting and rude", then a) they don't like you and b) you are not a social person anyway. And if a real life meeting "requires a sometimes herculean effort of schedule juggling", maybe you have your priorities wrong.
    - Karunamon 15y ago

khafra 15y ago

...and be the guy without a credit history. Pretty high risk; what are you trying to hide?

sukuriant 15y ago
There are ways to improve your credit, including prepaid credit cards/etc.
- SilasX 15y ago
  I think khafra's point was that not-disclosing your Facebook info will become in the future, what not-allowing a credit check is now. That is, today, only people who are big credit risks would try to avoid a credit check when applying for a loan -- because a credit check is an expected thing. In the future, linking your facebook account will be an expected thing in applying for a loan. So banks will assume anyone not allowing it is likewise a credit risk and thus ineligible for a loan, except possibly at usurious rates.
  - sukuriant 15y ago
    Oh, I see. Wow, that's horrifying, especially in the case of people like me, that are avoiding those particular social networking sites.
    - SilasX 15y ago
      I don't think it would be a problem if you were connected to some social networking site, or if you could somehow prove that you're not on facebook.
  - maxerickson 15y ago
    To me it seems a lot more likely that not sharing Facebook info would result in slightly higher interest rates, not zero credit. My thinking is that the Facebook info will not actually be more useful than things in a traditional credit score, so it will only be used in addition to those things. That leaves people with no payment history, but historically banks have been plenty willing to take a try it and see approach with those people.