Oh yeah you're right there. It's not all hard engineering, that's for sure. But, that is also the org where a lot of those folks live. and I just mean - very t

Oh yeah you're right there. It's not all hard engineering, that's for sure. But, that is also the org where a lot of those folks live. and I just mean - very talented people building hard things: WiSE (lot of crap mixed in there too), operating system people, some hardware people. Smart engineers with 5-25+ years of experience and special knowledge.