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Unless this person shows us Settings > Privacy & Security > Analytics & Improvements, the only thing I can conclude is that they left the setting on and they’re

by dangus 4y ago

Unless this person shows us Settings > Privacy & Security > Analytics & Improvements, the only thing I can conclude is that they left the setting on and they’re confusing third party app tracking controls with Apple’s analytics setting.

Nullabillity 4y ago
Doesn't that just say more about how obtuse these settings are designed to be though?
- dangus 4y ago
  No. The settings pane has multiple sentence explanations for what the privacy settings do. You're asked whether you want to send analytics to Apple as soon as you set up any device.
smoldesu 4y ago
They literally say in the body of the first post, verbatim "(data usage & personalized ads are off)" If the "only thing" you can conlcude is user error, you must be unfamiliar with the insane amount of ambient telemetry iOS/MacOS collects even when disabling analytics (OCSP ring a bell?)
- dangus 4y ago
  "Data usage & personalized ads" is not the setting I'm talking about. Personalized Ads is a different setting than the one I described, located in the "Apple Advertising" section, not the "Analytics & Improvements" section that I think the relevant setting lives in. "Data usage" isn't the name of any setting on iOS, that phrase is too vague to be sure what they mean. This is why I say that I'd like to see a screenshot of the relevant settings panes. How do I know this person didn't accidentally flip them back on during an update? OCSP isn't relevant to this issue. It's not "analytics," it does not seem to collect personal data, anonymized or not. OCSP is used to verify/revoke certificates, essentially for the purpose of removing malware and spam, which is a basic function consumer-friendly OS: https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/420002 https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/420002 To me that's a really legitimate use of a "phone home" when we're talking about commercial consumer operating systems.

by dangus 4y ago

Nullabillity 4y ago

Doesn't that just say more about how obtuse these settings are designed to be though?

dangus 4y ago
No. The settings pane has multiple sentence explanations for what the privacy settings do. You're asked whether you want to send analytics to Apple as soon as you set up any device.

smoldesu 4y ago

They literally say in the body of the first post, verbatim "(data usage & personalized ads are off)" If the "only thing" you can conlcude is user error, you must be unfamiliar with the insane amount of ambient telemetry iOS/MacOS collects even when disabling analytics (OCSP ring a bell?)

dangus 4y ago
"Data usage & personalized ads" is not the setting I'm talking about. Personalized Ads is a different setting than the one I described, located in the "Apple Advertising" section, not the "Analytics & Improvements" section that I think the relevant setting lives in. "Data usage" isn't the name of any setting on iOS, that phrase is too vague to be sure what they mean. This is why I say that I'd like to see a screenshot of the relevant settings panes. How do I know this person didn't accidentally flip them back on during an update? OCSP isn't relevant to this issue. It's not "analytics," it does not seem to collect personal data, anonymized or not. OCSP is used to verify/revoke certificates, essentially for the purpose of removing malware and spam, which is a basic function consumer-friendly OS: https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/420002 https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/420002 To me that's a really legitimate use of a "phone home" when we're talking about commercial consumer operating systems.