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Why punish inefficient behavior? All of these seem slightly... inhumane ( :) I suspect that is the point). Really, though, what if the elevator were sped up if

Why punish inefficient behavior? All of these seem slightly... inhumane ( :) I suspect that is the point). Really, though, what if the elevator were sped up if people started acting more efficiently (as determined by your multitude of sensors). Instead of Jandy's suggestion: >Am I crazy thinking it'd be a good idea to have an elevator which analyses its own usage patterns and adjusts its behaviour accordingly? why not make the people adjust to the elevator's ideal behaviour? EDIT: quote formatting

xibernetik 15y ago
A good design works with human nature, not against it. If you want people to adjust to the elevator's ideal behavior, you have to subtly guide them to the right direction -- which is possible, but the way you asked it sounds along the lines of telling a whole office to start following arbitrary elevator efficiency rules. That aside, I think Jandy was referring to a different scenario than what you're envisioning. If you have a skyscraper, and a trendy new bar opens on the 36th floor when the 36th floor use to be occupied by an office, but the elevator was programmed to rest at the 36th floor only at 9AM, lunch hours, and 5PM, telling the bar they have to make their clientele come and leave at those hours for "efficiency" will not go over well. Instead, having an elevator that notices no one's calling from the 36th floor before 8PM anymore doesn't sound like a bad idea.
- peter_l_downs 15y ago
  > A good design works with human nature, not against it. Although I agree, I was responding to the possibility of an elevator punishing behavior it didn't "like". Both what edw519 and I suggested would lead to "a whole office [...] following arbitrary elevator efficiency rules." It was intended to be a very tongue-in-cheek comment. I completely agree with both you and Jandy: a good elevator design would adjust itself to normal usage patterns and maximize efficiency within those constraints.
Tichy 15y ago
Clearly what is needed is an iElevator app for iPhone that teaches people how to make the most of their elevators.

xibernetik 15y ago

A good design works with human nature, not against it. If you want people to adjust to the elevator's ideal behavior, you have to subtly guide them to the right direction -- which is possible, but the way you asked it sounds along the lines of telling a whole office to start following arbitrary elevator efficiency rules. That aside, I think Jandy was referring to a different scenario than what you're envisioning. If you have a skyscraper, and a trendy new bar opens on the 36th floor when the 36th floor use to be occupied by an office, but the elevator was programmed to rest at the 36th floor only at 9AM, lunch hours, and 5PM, telling the bar they have to make their clientele come and leave at those hours for "efficiency" will not go over well. Instead, having an elevator that notices no one's calling from the 36th floor before 8PM anymore doesn't sound like a bad idea.

peter_l_downs 15y ago
> A good design works with human nature, not against it. Although I agree, I was responding to the possibility of an elevator punishing behavior it didn't "like". Both what edw519 and I suggested would lead to "a whole office [...] following arbitrary elevator efficiency rules." It was intended to be a very tongue-in-cheek comment. I completely agree with both you and Jandy: a good elevator design would adjust itself to normal usage patterns and maximize efficiency within those constraints.

Tichy 15y ago

Clearly what is needed is an iElevator app for iPhone that teaches people how to make the most of their elevators.