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I love a lot of the innovation going on in the healthcare digital space wrt apps, but this NightWare service reminds me of Sleep.io, which has become a nightmar

I love a lot of the innovation going on in the healthcare digital space wrt apps, but this NightWare service reminds me of Sleep.io, which has become a nightmare to try to procure. I've been trying for months to get on Sleep.io as I suffer from chronic insomnia, and it has been one of the most frustrating journeys I've endeavored upon. They only provide their app to insurance customers that partner with them, there is no option to buy a subscription directly. Despite their marketing and outward "shoot us a message and we'll help you out" virtue-signaling, you quickly realize that you're just sending messages into the void. I tried so hard and offered to pay a subscription rate to try the service. Didn't even get a response. It's the absolute worst of all worlds: being prevented from being able to use an app that I shouldn't need to talk to a doctor about or have the correct insurance for is unbelievably frustrating. Stuff like this terrifies me for our future.

jacooper 4y ago
Just pirate it ?
ugh123 4y ago
blast them on twitter/fb/whatever
vvvnnnnvvv 4y ago
Took a quick look at sleep.io and seems like it might just be CBT-I. There's a free app from the VA (ironically, given the subject of this thread) - https://mobile.va.gov/app/cbt-i-coach https://mobile.va.gov/app/cbt-i-coach. It's a little rough around the edges, but if you have the general idea of CBT-i it's probably good enough. In case you don't have the general idea, here it is - 1. Decide your desired wake time. Figure out how much sleep you are currently getting. 2. Go to bed late enough that there's only enough time to sleep the amount you are currently sleeping before your desired wake time. When the wake time arrives (or before, if you wake up too early), get out of bed. E.g., If you want to wake up at 7am and you are currently only getting 5h of sleep each night, you should go to bed at 2am. 3. (Be really really tired for a couple of days, oh my god) 4. Once you are finding it easy to fall asleep and stay asleep until your desired wake time, start backing up the bedtime gradually. (* this is where the app will help, can tell you when to do it and by how much) 5. [follow a bunch of other rules about when to go to bed and when to get out of bed and when to exercise, drink alcohol, and coffee] Not defending sleep.io or your experience here, which does sound very frustrating - just hopefully some help from a fellow insomniac. CBT-i did help me, albeit temporarily. I have to re-do it periodically.
warrentr 4y ago
The app we're building features CBT-I content (at the bottom of the main screen, called "lessons") and is currently free: https://apps.apple.com/in/app/chorus-sleep-tracker-sounds/id1615658684 https://apps.apple.com/in/app/chorus-sleep-tracker-sounds/id...

jacooper 4y ago

Just pirate it ?

ugh123 4y ago

blast them on twitter/fb/whatever

vvvnnnnvvv 4y ago

Took a quick look at sleep.io and seems like it might just be CBT-I. There's a free app from the VA (ironically, given the subject of this thread) - https://mobile.va.gov/app/cbt-i-coach https://mobile.va.gov/app/cbt-i-coach. It's a little rough around the edges, but if you have the general idea of CBT-i it's probably good enough. In case you don't have the general idea, here it is - 1. Decide your desired wake time. Figure out how much sleep you are currently getting. 2. Go to bed late enough that there's only enough time to sleep the amount you are currently sleeping before your desired wake time. When the wake time arrives (or before, if you wake up too early), get out of bed. E.g., If you want to wake up at 7am and you are currently only getting 5h of sleep each night, you should go to bed at 2am. 3. (Be really really tired for a couple of days, oh my god) 4. Once you are finding it easy to fall asleep and stay asleep until your desired wake time, start backing up the bedtime gradually. (* this is where the app will help, can tell you when to do it and by how much) 5. [follow a bunch of other rules about when to go to bed and when to get out of bed and when to exercise, drink alcohol, and coffee] Not defending sleep.io or your experience here, which does sound very frustrating - just hopefully some help from a fellow insomniac. CBT-i did help me, albeit temporarily. I have to re-do it periodically.

warrentr 4y ago

The app we're building features CBT-I content (at the bottom of the main screen, called "lessons") and is currently free: https://apps.apple.com/in/app/chorus-sleep-tracker-sounds/id1615658684 https://apps.apple.com/in/app/chorus-sleep-tracker-sounds/id...