> True, but from my perspective the career oriented people don't actually care about that stuff or solving problems. In my mind, the people I would label as car

> True, but from my perspective the career oriented people don't actually care about that stuff or solving problems. In my mind, the people I would label as career oriented are usually pretentious assholes preoccupied by the "status" of someday being in the C suite and driving the most expensive BMW/Tesla. One does not exclude another.