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Federal sentencing is pretty straightforward - they use a chart that looks like "times tables" from 5th grade math class and just add up all of the points assoc

Federal sentencing is pretty straightforward - they use a chart that looks like "times tables" from 5th grade math class and just add up all of the points associated with the crimes she was convicted of. Holmes is far more likely to do 20+ years than 18 months. https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/substantial-sentence-likely-for-3767072/ https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/substantial-sentence-likel...

Cupertino95014 4y ago
I said: money talks, BS walks. We can find someone to take our bets, I'm sure.
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  How about a friendly bet then, I'll donate $10 to the charity of your choice if her sentence is under 15 years and you can donate $10 to the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society (https://www.lls.org/ https://www.lls.org/) if it's over 3 years?
  - Cupertino95014 4y ago
    Same number of years, or no deal.
    - Cupertino95014 4y ago
      Actually, I'll take that back, since you're giving me the hugely better deal. Also, our charities, since if she gets 5 years, we both donate. You sure about this? There's still a question about suspended sentences and community service - do those count? I say No.
      - mikeyouse 4y ago
        Yeah if it’s more than 3 and less than 15 we’d both donate. And yeah, just prison time, if she gets 24 months in prison and 24 suspended, you’re off the hook. I still like my odds!
        Cupertino95014 4y ago
        Sounds good. It's the "community service" I worry about. "Boo hoo, she's a mother of young children, how horrible to lock her up."
        Cupertino95014 4y ago
        The prosecution only even asked for 15 years, so I'm pretty sure you're going to be donating, mikey! Probably I will, too. For your $10: the money's really intended for Lighthouse Ministry (lfrad.org), but in case they don't have their formal IRS 501(c)(3) status yet, you can give to Martha's Kitchen https://www.marthas-kitchen.org/ https://www.marthas-kitchen.org/ and mark the donation as "for Lighthouse". They are a "financial sponsor" for Lighthouse, which is a term that has some kind of legal significance I don't understand, but I know the money will get there.
  - Cupertino95014 4y ago
    done
andirk 4y ago
Great link! Where did the money go exactly? If the investors invested in her company, and the company didn't really make any investments itself, isn't there a pile of money somewhere where they can give it back? If much fewer dollars were "lost", does not that lower her sentence drastically? Like to that 1x1 times table square?
- Cupertino95014 4y ago
  They had a big office right on Page Mill Road (and maybe still do), which had to be horrendously expensive. Also all those salaried professionals. I don't think there's any big pile of money to give back.
  - mikeyouse 4y ago
    Right - they had a beautiful campus and thousands of highly-paid employees. Add in all of Holmes' and Balwani's expenses and there isn't anything left to give back.

Cupertino95014 4y ago

I said: money talks, BS walks. We can find someone to take our bets, I'm sure.

mikeyouse 4y ago
How about a friendly bet then, I'll donate $10 to the charity of your choice if her sentence is under 15 years and you can donate $10 to the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society (https://www.lls.org/ https://www.lls.org/) if it's over 3 years?
- Cupertino95014 4y ago
  Same number of years, or no deal.
  - Cupertino95014 4y ago
    Actually, I'll take that back, since you're giving me the hugely better deal. Also, our charities, since if she gets 5 years, we both donate. You sure about this? There's still a question about suspended sentences and community service - do those count? I say No.
    - mikeyouse 4y ago
      Yeah if it’s more than 3 and less than 15 we’d both donate. And yeah, just prison time, if she gets 24 months in prison and 24 suspended, you’re off the hook. I still like my odds!
      - Cupertino95014 4y ago
        Sounds good. It's the "community service" I worry about. "Boo hoo, she's a mother of young children, how horrible to lock her up."
      - Cupertino95014 4y ago
        The prosecution only even asked for 15 years, so I'm pretty sure you're going to be donating, mikey! Probably I will, too. For your $10: the money's really intended for Lighthouse Ministry (lfrad.org), but in case they don't have their formal IRS 501(c)(3) status yet, you can give to Martha's Kitchen https://www.marthas-kitchen.org/ https://www.marthas-kitchen.org/ and mark the donation as "for Lighthouse". They are a "financial sponsor" for Lighthouse, which is a term that has some kind of legal significance I don't understand, but I know the money will get there.
- Cupertino95014 4y ago
  done

andirk 4y ago

Great link! Where did the money go exactly? If the investors invested in her company, and the company didn't really make any investments itself, isn't there a pile of money somewhere where they can give it back? If much fewer dollars were "lost", does not that lower her sentence drastically? Like to that 1x1 times table square?

Cupertino95014 4y ago
They had a big office right on Page Mill Road (and maybe still do), which had to be horrendously expensive. Also all those salaried professionals. I don't think there's any big pile of money to give back.
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  Right - they had a beautiful campus and thousands of highly-paid employees. Add in all of Holmes' and Balwani's expenses and there isn't anything left to give back.