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The founder of the BLM movement - certainly one of the most influential American movements of the recent past - described herself and her fellow co-founders as

The founder of the BLM movement - certainly one of the most influential American movements of the recent past - described herself and her fellow co-founders as "trained Marxists": https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/ https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herse... Clearly the radical left doesn't allow itself with Russia and China as they are today; however they do express sympathy for the ideologies that underlie the Soviet Union and Maoist China. Maybe I've seen much of it simply because I lived in SF for years, but you are bound to run into folks there who self-describe not only as "Marxists", but also as "Communists" and sometimes specifically "Maoists". The push to override civil liberties, notably free speech as described in the article, in service of "more important goals", is certainly reminiscent of communist and Maoist agendas.

aradox66 4y ago
It's a huge leap from Marxist to "supports China and Russia." It's blatantly not the same thing. There's plenty of room to debate about the actual political differences at hand without introducing a ~~red herring~~. Edit: this is actually a "straw man", not a "red herring".
- NeverFade 4y ago
  Are you really not aware that members of the American radical left, in particular those who identify as Marxist, are sympathetic to other Marxist nations, such as Soviet Russia, Cuba, and Maoist China? > Angela Yvonne Davis (born January 26, 1944) is an American political activist, philosopher, academic, scholar, and author. She is a professor at the University of California, Santa Cruz. A feminist and a Marxist, Davis was a longtime member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) and is a founding member of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS). She is the author of more than ten books on class, gender, race, and the U.S. prison system. > After her acquittal, Davis went on an international speaking tour in 1972 and the tour included Cuba, where she had previously been received by Fidel Castro in 1969 as a member of a Communist Party delegation.[46] Robert F. Williams, Huey Newton, Stokely Carmichael had also visited Cuba, and Assata Shakur later moved there after escaping from a US prison. Her reception by Afro-Cubans at a mass rally was so enthusiastic that she was reportedly barely able to speak.[47] Davis perceived Cuba as a racism-free country, which led her to believe that "only under socialism could the fight against racism be successfully executed." When she returned to the United States, her socialist leanings increasingly influenced her understanding of race struggles.[48] In 1974, she attended the Second Congress of the Federation of Cuban Women.[46] > In 1971, the CIA estimated that five percent of Soviet propaganda efforts were directed towards the Angela Davis campaign.[49] In August 1972, Davis visited the USSR at the invitation of the Central Committee, and received an honorary doctorate from Moscow State University.[50] > On May 1, 1979, she was awarded the Lenin Peace Prize from the Soviet Union.[51] She visited Moscow later that month to accept the prize, where she praised "the glorious name" of Lenin and the "great October Revolution". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Davis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Davis

aradox66 4y ago

It's a huge leap from Marxist to "supports China and Russia." It's blatantly not the same thing. There's plenty of room to debate about the actual political differences at hand without introducing a ~~red herring~~. Edit: this is actually a "straw man", not a "red herring".

NeverFade 4y ago
Are you really not aware that members of the American radical left, in particular those who identify as Marxist, are sympathetic to other Marxist nations, such as Soviet Russia, Cuba, and Maoist China? > Angela Yvonne Davis (born January 26, 1944) is an American political activist, philosopher, academic, scholar, and author. She is a professor at the University of California, Santa Cruz. A feminist and a Marxist, Davis was a longtime member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) and is a founding member of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS). She is the author of more than ten books on class, gender, race, and the U.S. prison system. > After her acquittal, Davis went on an international speaking tour in 1972 and the tour included Cuba, where she had previously been received by Fidel Castro in 1969 as a member of a Communist Party delegation.[46] Robert F. Williams, Huey Newton, Stokely Carmichael had also visited Cuba, and Assata Shakur later moved there after escaping from a US prison. Her reception by Afro-Cubans at a mass rally was so enthusiastic that she was reportedly barely able to speak.[47] Davis perceived Cuba as a racism-free country, which led her to believe that "only under socialism could the fight against racism be successfully executed." When she returned to the United States, her socialist leanings increasingly influenced her understanding of race struggles.[48] In 1974, she attended the Second Congress of the Federation of Cuban Women.[46] > In 1971, the CIA estimated that five percent of Soviet propaganda efforts were directed towards the Angela Davis campaign.[49] In August 1972, Davis visited the USSR at the invitation of the Central Committee, and received an honorary doctorate from Moscow State University.[50] > On May 1, 1979, she was awarded the Lenin Peace Prize from the Soviet Union.[51] She visited Moscow later that month to accept the prize, where she praised "the glorious name" of Lenin and the "great October Revolution". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Davis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Davis