> maybe the problem was we were listening to too much punk and hardcore and were determined to reject everything about [not punk] IMO a classic artistic trap,

> maybe the problem was we were listening to too much punk and hardcore and were determined to reject everything about [not punk] IMO a classic artistic trap, especially for those enamored with a particular genre. Also a musician here, who has seen plenty of copycat scene bands, as well as others who have transcended their niche partially by having rich and diverse sources of inspiration.