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>”and occasional deliberately try to mame and kill cyclists?” That seems more than a little hyperbolic, no? Road rage is real, but I don’t think there are driv

>”and occasional deliberately try to mame and kill cyclists?” That seems more than a little hyperbolic, no? Road rage is real, but I don’t think there are drivers who are actively and deliberately trying to maim or murder bicyclists. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_erro...

mbauman 4y ago
Nah, mostly just trying to scare them and put them in their place. https://www.bikelaw.com/2017/07/punishment-pass-defined/ https://www.bikelaw.com/2017/07/punishment-pass-defined/
dropofwill 4y ago
Perhaps, but there are plenty of examples of people being convicted for murder because they hit and killed cyclists. If it's good enough for the legal system... At any rate when they shout at you, roll coal, swerve to force you off the road their intentions are clearly not good.
avianlyric 4y ago
You can tell that to all the drivers that have actively forced me into the curb, or into the side parked cars, or have pulled alongside and yelled at me etc. Seems many drivers don’t see people on bikes a humans, and behave accordingly.
Jochim 4y ago
Based on a very quick search, there are absolutely drivers who are actively and deliberately trying to maim and murder bicyclists. It actually seems much more common than I thought it would be: > A driver who told a cyclist “I’m going to kill you” before ramming him with his car has been jailed for 10 months after being found guilty of dangerous driving. https://road.cc/content/news/driver-who-deliberately-rammed-cyclist-car-jailed-294611 https://road.cc/content/news/driver-who-deliberately-rammed-... > A CYCLIST with cancer who was cornered by a driver before being beaten for ‘no reason’ was left ‘furious’, saying: ‘I could have been killed.’ https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/hayling-island-cyclist-with-cancer-beaten-by-bmw-driver-for-no-reason-says-i-could-have-been-killed-as-judge-rips-into-attacker-3899691 https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/hayling-island-cycli... > This person passed a cyclist and then drove off the road intentionally onto the shoulder and into two other cyclists and possibly accelerated while doing that https://www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-driver-accused-of-intentionally-hitting-two-cyclists-critically-injuring-one-still-at-large/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-driver-accused-of-inte... An older video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7oskFsHSMs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7oskFsHSMs > The driver, Marshall Grant Neely III, who is the dean of students at University School of Nashville continues to deny his responsibility for slamming into the cyclist and sending him to hospital. The video of him hitting the cyclist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfqthN_UjG0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfqthN_UjG0 > Neely responded “No there are bikes all over the place. I didn’t see him…I feel very badly for the gentleman who collided with me and I assume we’ll see each other in court,” he continued adding that he does not think he is a bad man. https://www.granfondoguide.com/Contents/Index/2920/shocking-moment-volvo-driver-intentionally-hits-cyclist https://www.granfondoguide.com/Contents/Index/2920/shocking-...
- hooverd 4y ago
  Unfortunately, a subset of cyclists users the bad behavior of drivers as an excuse to be rude to pedestrians.
  - avianlyric 4y ago
    An entirely separate and unrelated issue which is very poor justification for murder.

mbauman 4y ago

Nah, mostly just trying to scare them and put them in their place. https://www.bikelaw.com/2017/07/punishment-pass-defined/ https://www.bikelaw.com/2017/07/punishment-pass-defined/

dropofwill 4y ago

Perhaps, but there are plenty of examples of people being convicted for murder because they hit and killed cyclists. If it's good enough for the legal system... At any rate when they shout at you, roll coal, swerve to force you off the road their intentions are clearly not good.

avianlyric 4y ago

You can tell that to all the drivers that have actively forced me into the curb, or into the side parked cars, or have pulled alongside and yelled at me etc. Seems many drivers don’t see people on bikes a humans, and behave accordingly.

Jochim 4y ago

Based on a very quick search, there are absolutely drivers who are actively and deliberately trying to maim and murder bicyclists. It actually seems much more common than I thought it would be: > A driver who told a cyclist “I’m going to kill you” before ramming him with his car has been jailed for 10 months after being found guilty of dangerous driving. https://road.cc/content/news/driver-who-deliberately-rammed-cyclist-car-jailed-294611 https://road.cc/content/news/driver-who-deliberately-rammed-... > A CYCLIST with cancer who was cornered by a driver before being beaten for ‘no reason’ was left ‘furious’, saying: ‘I could have been killed.’ https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/hayling-island-cyclist-with-cancer-beaten-by-bmw-driver-for-no-reason-says-i-could-have-been-killed-as-judge-rips-into-attacker-3899691 https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/hayling-island-cycli... > This person passed a cyclist and then drove off the road intentionally onto the shoulder and into two other cyclists and possibly accelerated while doing that https://www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-driver-accused-of-intentionally-hitting-two-cyclists-critically-injuring-one-still-at-large/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-driver-accused-of-inte... An older video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7oskFsHSMs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7oskFsHSMs > The driver, Marshall Grant Neely III, who is the dean of students at University School of Nashville continues to deny his responsibility for slamming into the cyclist and sending him to hospital. The video of him hitting the cyclist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfqthN_UjG0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfqthN_UjG0 > Neely responded “No there are bikes all over the place. I didn’t see him…I feel very badly for the gentleman who collided with me and I assume we’ll see each other in court,” he continued adding that he does not think he is a bad man. https://www.granfondoguide.com/Contents/Index/2920/shocking-moment-volvo-driver-intentionally-hits-cyclist https://www.granfondoguide.com/Contents/Index/2920/shocking-...

hooverd 4y ago
Unfortunately, a subset of cyclists users the bad behavior of drivers as an excuse to be rude to pedestrians.
- avianlyric 4y ago
  An entirely separate and unrelated issue which is very poor justification for murder.