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Apple's support policy is I believe explicitly to only fully support the current version. But I can't find anything to quote right now. I know this, so I updat

Apple's support policy is I believe explicitly to only fully support the current version. But I can't find anything to quote right now. I know this, so I update immediately, and get on with it. If you do something else then you're just denying reality. > It is not unreasonable to expect long-term support for software It is unreasonable to expect that, if that is not what has ever been promised to you or delivered in practice.

ghusto 4y ago
> But I can't find anything to quote right now And you never will. Part of my point was that they want all the benefits of saying they're not going to provide long-term support, with none of the downsides of saying it. Hence you _know_ this to be true, but can't find it written down. > I know this, so I update immediately, and get on with it. If you do something else then you're just denying reality. "My boss treats me like badly / my internet service is poor / none of the software I paid for works two years from now / [any other endless examples of being treated like a shmuck]. I know this, and just get on with it. If you do something else then you're just denying reality" > It is unreasonable to expect that, if that is not what has ever been promised to you or delivered in practice. I don't need to be explicitly promised reasonable terms to find the way I'm being treated unreasonable. "Well, we never _said_ it would still work in a few years" is not going to cut it. People, we used to have standards. Some of you are too young to remember — and I do _not_ mean to sound condescending, it's just true that some of you weren't around back then — but people had expectations of products, and they were high (in comparison to today). You bought things for life. We've been frog-boiled through iterations by companies like Apple to accept throwaway culture.
vbezhenar 4y ago
I'm not sure about support policy, but they definitely release security updates for old operating systems.
- chrisseaton 4y ago
  Yeah, hence 'fully'. Getting a new file system version isn't security (unless it's specifically a security flaw.)

ghusto 4y ago

> But I can't find anything to quote right now And you never will. Part of my point was that they want all the benefits of saying they're not going to provide long-term support, with none of the downsides of saying it. Hence you _know_ this to be true, but can't find it written down. > I know this, so I update immediately, and get on with it. If you do something else then you're just denying reality. "My boss treats me like badly / my internet service is poor / none of the software I paid for works two years from now / [any other endless examples of being treated like a shmuck]. I know this, and just get on with it. If you do something else then you're just denying reality" > It is unreasonable to expect that, if that is not what has ever been promised to you or delivered in practice. I don't need to be explicitly promised reasonable terms to find the way I'm being treated unreasonable. "Well, we never _said_ it would still work in a few years" is not going to cut it. People, we used to have standards. Some of you are too young to remember — and I do _not_ mean to sound condescending, it's just true that some of you weren't around back then — but people had expectations of products, and they were high (in comparison to today). You bought things for life. We've been frog-boiled through iterations by companies like Apple to accept throwaway culture.

vbezhenar 4y ago

I'm not sure about support policy, but they definitely release security updates for old operating systems.

chrisseaton 4y ago
Yeah, hence 'fully'. Getting a new file system version isn't security (unless it's specifically a security flaw.)