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IMHO the best way to capture video from any operating system is to simply output the HDMI to a HDMI USB capture device [1] plugged into another computer running

IMHO the best way to capture video from any operating system is to simply output the HDMI to a HDMI USB capture device [1] plugged into another computer running OBS Studio or similar software. [1]: https://www.walmart.com/ip/HOTBEST-HD-HDMI-Capture-Card-for-Game-Video-Live-for-PS4-xbox-Switch-OBS-Live-Recording-Box-Audio-Game-to-USB-2-0-1080P-Video-Streaming-Device/299457368?athbdg=L1700 https://www.walmart.com/ip/HOTBEST-HD-HDMI-Capture-Card-for-...

G3rn0ti 4y ago
Pretty much overkill when doing DOS emulation, cost-wise and usability-wise. Either you use dosbox' built-in capturing facility or you just screen capture using OBS on the same machine.
Nexxxeh 4y ago
That's probably the easiest, when combined with a HDCP stripper if necessary. It's unlikely to be high video quality though, as all of the similar HDMI capture devices that I have (~7, known as the "Can'tLink" devices as a play on "CamLink") will only do decent framerate at reasonable resolutions in MJPEG. Quick Edit: Also, if you get one, check there's a tiny heatsink on the chip inside otherwise they cook themselves.
- unknownaccount 4y ago
  is there not a way to capture HDMI losslessly?
  - Nexxxeh 4y ago
    Yes, but not using that tool. Certainly not at a $8 price-point over USB 2.0 (and while some of them have USB 3.0 looking ports, they're USB 2.0 internally). I'd start by looking at the Black Magic Intensity Pro 4K, but you're looking at hundreds of dollars.
    - UltraViolence 4y ago
      With USB2.0 you're talking about 53MBytes/sec data rate. That's more than sufficient for lossless Full-HD video. Yes, for anything higher quality (UHD 4K) you need more expensive hardware.
      - Nexxxeh 4y ago
        I have multiple of what I'm very confident are basically those devices. I use them fairly regularly. They are almost all built around the MS 2109 Macrosilicon chip (and the ones that aren't are worse). They will only do MJPEG when above a certain rez and framerate. 1080p60 24-bit colour depth is 372.5MBytes/sec uncompressed. So it's going to require some compression. I'm not an expert on h.264 etc, but can you do real-time lossless CBR below 53MBytes/sec on a readily available hardware encoder that, including the HDMI capture functionality, comes anywhere near $8?

G3rn0ti 4y ago

Pretty much overkill when doing DOS emulation, cost-wise and usability-wise. Either you use dosbox' built-in capturing facility or you just screen capture using OBS on the same machine.

Nexxxeh 4y ago

That's probably the easiest, when combined with a HDCP stripper if necessary. It's unlikely to be high video quality though, as all of the similar HDMI capture devices that I have (~7, known as the "Can'tLink" devices as a play on "CamLink") will only do decent framerate at reasonable resolutions in MJPEG. Quick Edit: Also, if you get one, check there's a tiny heatsink on the chip inside otherwise they cook themselves.

unknownaccount 4y ago
is there not a way to capture HDMI losslessly?
- Nexxxeh 4y ago
  Yes, but not using that tool. Certainly not at a $8 price-point over USB 2.0 (and while some of them have USB 3.0 looking ports, they're USB 2.0 internally). I'd start by looking at the Black Magic Intensity Pro 4K, but you're looking at hundreds of dollars.
  - UltraViolence 4y ago
    With USB2.0 you're talking about 53MBytes/sec data rate. That's more than sufficient for lossless Full-HD video. Yes, for anything higher quality (UHD 4K) you need more expensive hardware.
    - Nexxxeh 4y ago
      I have multiple of what I'm very confident are basically those devices. I use them fairly regularly. They are almost all built around the MS 2109 Macrosilicon chip (and the ones that aren't are worse). They will only do MJPEG when above a certain rez and framerate. 1080p60 24-bit colour depth is 372.5MBytes/sec uncompressed. So it's going to require some compression. I'm not an expert on h.264 etc, but can you do real-time lossless CBR below 53MBytes/sec on a readily available hardware encoder that, including the HDMI capture functionality, comes anywhere near $8?