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>If you need to go to some government office to do so, odds are in a rural area you’ll be travelling a greater distance to get to it, taking up more time and mo

>If you need to go to some government office to do so, odds are in a rural area you’ll be travelling a greater distance to get to it, taking up more time and money, requiring more time off work, etc A rural office often is overstaffed for the population compared to an urban one, so while it may take a bit longer to drive there you'll spend less time at the DMV. Plus, traveling thirty miles in a rural setting can be quicker than ten in an urban one. Basically I don't think this is a meaningful difference, and it has nothing to do with why some Republicans are against a required free ID.

WalterBright 4y ago
Who is against a free government ID? I never heard of such opposition.
- boomboomsubban 4y ago
  People think it'd be too invasive or expensive, and allows for things like tracking gun owners or racial profiling. The Real ID act, which didn't even create a national ID merely required certain standards for state ID, was so controversial that I'm not sure all states comply with it seventeen years later. And there are still some people so opposed to a government ID that they don't register their births or get social security numbers.
  - WalterBright 4y ago
    I didn't say it had to be a national ID card. A state one would be good enough. > allows for things like tracking gun owners If that were true, the Democrats would be in favor of national ID > or racial profiling I don't see how. An ID card needn't specify race. > some people so opposed to a government ID that they don't register their births or get social security numbers And yet they register to vote?
    - boomboomsubban 4y ago
      >I didn't say it had to be a national ID card. A state one would be good enough. I basically did, and as you were asking me the question I assumed you were asking why some Republicans are opposed to a required free ID. I tacked in a bit about why some Democrats may be opposed to it, but I'm not sure what you're hoping for by attacking my proof that there are people that oppose a required free ID. Most of my point was that the time needed to get an ID is not a meaningful factor in any party's support of this issue.
  - ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
    > there are some people so opposed to a government ID that they don't register their births or get social security numbers How do these people pay taxes?
    - boomboomsubban 4y ago
      I'm no expert on them, but I don't think they earn that much nor particularly care about taxes.

WalterBright 4y ago

Who is against a free government ID? I never heard of such opposition.

boomboomsubban 4y ago
People think it'd be too invasive or expensive, and allows for things like tracking gun owners or racial profiling. The Real ID act, which didn't even create a national ID merely required certain standards for state ID, was so controversial that I'm not sure all states comply with it seventeen years later. And there are still some people so opposed to a government ID that they don't register their births or get social security numbers.
- WalterBright 4y ago
  I didn't say it had to be a national ID card. A state one would be good enough. > allows for things like tracking gun owners If that were true, the Democrats would be in favor of national ID > or racial profiling I don't see how. An ID card needn't specify race. > some people so opposed to a government ID that they don't register their births or get social security numbers And yet they register to vote?
  - boomboomsubban 4y ago
    >I didn't say it had to be a national ID card. A state one would be good enough. I basically did, and as you were asking me the question I assumed you were asking why some Republicans are opposed to a required free ID. I tacked in a bit about why some Democrats may be opposed to it, but I'm not sure what you're hoping for by attacking my proof that there are people that oppose a required free ID. Most of my point was that the time needed to get an ID is not a meaningful factor in any party's support of this issue.
- ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
  > there are some people so opposed to a government ID that they don't register their births or get social security numbers How do these people pay taxes?
  - boomboomsubban 4y ago
    I'm no expert on them, but I don't think they earn that much nor particularly care about taxes.