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I'm working on getting my photos out (first by requesting my data from Apple, then from iCloud Drive on Windows) and I'm appalled - everything gets dumped into

I'm working on getting my photos out (first by requesting my data from Apple, then from iCloud Drive on Windows) and I'm appalled - everything gets dumped into one directory. Inconsistent file naming. Timestamps not always accurate, and "Date Taken" seems to have disappeared from a number of my photos. Thank you for posting this! We currently use organized Dropbox folders, but we were considering to use the new Family Album functionality. This sounds like we'd regret this in the future. I am not sure if it is malice on Apple's part though. They have traditionally been bad at cloud services. It sounds like export is a hacky half-working implementation, which sounds like most of iCloud...

deafpolygon 4y ago
> I am not sure if it is malice on Apple's part though. They have traditionally been bad at cloud services. With a market cap of 2.2T, I don't think they have a good excuse at this point. Traditionally bad at this point is negligence. They certainly have the money to "do the right thing", but they won't.
- ilyt 4y ago
  There is no money in committing engineers to feature that helps people leave your platform, it's as simple as that. It's for profit company. There is no "do right thing" in their dictionary
- microtonal 4y ago
  Well, these outcomes are not only driven by money or incentives to lock in users. A dysfunctional organization in the services group would also lead to the outcomes we see. I mean, look at Google. Constantly launching and abandoning chat apps is not in their or their user's interest. But their organization is such that launching new features is better for your career than polishing what exists. Looking more broadly at Apple, it suffers from the same issues. We often get a bunch of new features, but they are never really polished like they used to (like we now have a bunch of half-working ways to manage windows). Not to pull the Steve Jobs card, but I think when he was annoyed by a lack of polish he'd force teams so work on that rather than chasing features.
0cf8612b2e1e 4y ago
>I am not sure if it is malice on Apple's part though. We’re talking about replicating a folder structure and/or not mangling existing tags. I have a hard time it is anything but malicious.

deafpolygon 4y ago

> I am not sure if it is malice on Apple's part though. They have traditionally been bad at cloud services. With a market cap of 2.2T, I don't think they have a good excuse at this point. Traditionally bad at this point is negligence. They certainly have the money to "do the right thing", but they won't.

ilyt 4y ago
There is no money in committing engineers to feature that helps people leave your platform, it's as simple as that. It's for profit company. There is no "do right thing" in their dictionary
microtonal 4y ago
Well, these outcomes are not only driven by money or incentives to lock in users. A dysfunctional organization in the services group would also lead to the outcomes we see. I mean, look at Google. Constantly launching and abandoning chat apps is not in their or their user's interest. But their organization is such that launching new features is better for your career than polishing what exists. Looking more broadly at Apple, it suffers from the same issues. We often get a bunch of new features, but they are never really polished like they used to (like we now have a bunch of half-working ways to manage windows). Not to pull the Steve Jobs card, but I think when he was annoyed by a lack of polish he'd force teams so work on that rather than chasing features.

0cf8612b2e1e 4y ago

>I am not sure if it is malice on Apple's part though. We’re talking about replicating a folder structure and/or not mangling existing tags. I have a hard time it is anything but malicious.