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Giving cataclysmic predictions that don't happen, and quietly ignoring them when the year comes to replace it with the next cataclysmic prediction, is much like

Giving cataclysmic predictions that don't happen, and quietly ignoring them when the year comes to replace it with the next cataclysmic prediction, is much like how some religious people say we're always either in or about to be in the End of Days. And is treated the same. Especially when malincentives like regulators lining their pockets are involved ("Carbon credits" can be like a type of religious indulgence). More measured approaches on shorter timescales -- actually going after the big fish and not ignoring their excess because they are more "important" than the little people -- is taken more seriously.

yongjik 4y ago
> actually going after the big fish and not ignoring their excess because they are more "important" than the little people Is this yet another allusion on Al Gore and his infamous private jet? Last year, 506,769 airplanes either took off or landed in LAX only. That's 1388 per day in one airport. All packed to the gill by "little people" like you and me. Al Gore could fly his jet across the Pacific every day and it would be literally a drop in the bucket-full of little guys, in the grand scheme of things. I'm tired of these talks of "big guys ruining the environment," which is conveniently only brought up when these big guys talk about the environment. This is plain simple "hate the message, shoot the messenger" strategy.
- llanowarelves 4y ago
  Cool, so I can morally use as much as I want because in the grand scheme of things I am just one person. You know what, I agree with that. Now I don't have to change my behavior for any of this stuff. I just needed to see myself as important as them. Thank you for this change in perspective. Now I can say a few words about the environment, while consuming as much as possible, and you'll have to defend me from critique. By "big fish" I actually meant companies (who are a prime shake-down target for carbon credits), but if for the rich, celebs, and politicians the shoe fits... They are supposed to have noblesse oblige.
  - ForHackernews 4y ago
    > Cool, so I can morally use as much as I want because in the grand scheme of things I am just one person. Fucking yes! We need stringent government regulations, not individual moralizing. Stop whining and moaning and vote for politicians who will put in place the taxes and regulations needed.

yongjik 4y ago

> actually going after the big fish and not ignoring their excess because they are more "important" than the little people Is this yet another allusion on Al Gore and his infamous private jet? Last year, 506,769 airplanes either took off or landed in LAX only. That's 1388 per day in one airport. All packed to the gill by "little people" like you and me. Al Gore could fly his jet across the Pacific every day and it would be literally a drop in the bucket-full of little guys, in the grand scheme of things. I'm tired of these talks of "big guys ruining the environment," which is conveniently only brought up when these big guys talk about the environment. This is plain simple "hate the message, shoot the messenger" strategy.

llanowarelves 4y ago
Cool, so I can morally use as much as I want because in the grand scheme of things I am just one person. You know what, I agree with that. Now I don't have to change my behavior for any of this stuff. I just needed to see myself as important as them. Thank you for this change in perspective. Now I can say a few words about the environment, while consuming as much as possible, and you'll have to defend me from critique. By "big fish" I actually meant companies (who are a prime shake-down target for carbon credits), but if for the rich, celebs, and politicians the shoe fits... They are supposed to have noblesse oblige.
- ForHackernews 4y ago
  > Cool, so I can morally use as much as I want because in the grand scheme of things I am just one person. Fucking yes! We need stringent government regulations, not individual moralizing. Stop whining and moaning and vote for politicians who will put in place the taxes and regulations needed.