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What I don't understand here (though admittedly I haven't been following the iOS discussions closely) is why backups are possible on Android but not on iOS?
by codethief 4y ago
What I don't understand here (though admittedly I haven't been following the iOS discussions closely) is why backups are possible on Android but not on iOS?
- TimTheTinker 4y agoAs I understand it, iOS backups normally go to iCloud -- where they're stored encrypted but the keys are held by Apple (i.e. not end-to-end encrypted, and not a zero-knowledge system by any stretch). This makes iCloud-stored iOS backups susceptible to subpoena, malicious employees, and/or good-enough hackers.
- hackmiester 4y agoSo, I have stopped this, because I do not use iCloud. Can I enable backups?
- izacus 4y agoNothing stops Signal from E2E encrypting backups on their side.
- izacus 4y agoThe backups on Android are near useless as well - they expect users to remember and save a massively long string of numbers (that are pre-generated, so they can't even choose a password they remember) and then they only do backup manually and onto device storage where it'll be gone together with everything else on the device if it breaks or dies. Getting that backup off the device is yet another manual process for most users they need to think about. Compare this to Telegram: user doesn't have to do anything. Compare this to iMessage: user doesn't have to do anything. Compare this to WhatsApp: user just needs to click agree. The last two even save backups in an E2E encrypted fashion unreadable by servers.
- codethief 4y agoThat was not my question. In any case, I actually prefer it the way Signal does because 1) I don't have to sign up for / rely on a cloud provider, 2) if need be, I can decrypt the backup on my own and export it to some other format. > then they only do backup manually Wrong. The backup can be done automatically (i.e. every day).