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Interlingua isn't an improvement over esperanto, Interlingua is what esperanto tried to be and actually succeeds in it. Esperanto tried to be auxiliary and fail

by nmz 4y ago

Interlingua isn't an improvement over esperanto, Interlingua is what esperanto tried to be and actually succeeds in it. Esperanto tried to be auxiliary and fails at it. instead of becoming an international language it becomes another language to learn. while interlingua is a language you already know but have never learned. you just have to learn to speak.

F3nd0 4y ago
Esperanto was always another language to learn. The idea was never that you people would be able to read Esperanto without learning it; that's pretty much impossible, considering the diversity between languages (even looking just at Europe). The idea was to have a language that would be easy to learn and speak, owing to a simple, regular grammar, and using internationally recognisable words where possible. Interlingua may be readily intelligible to speakers of Romance languages, but is its grammar any simpler than Esperanto's? Or is comparatively more complex and difficult to learn? Because that's what ultimately matters for the rest of the world's population who do not speak a Romance language.
- PaulHoule 4y ago
  English has a lot of Latin in it, plus if you are a cosmopolitan English speaker you probably get exposed to some French, Spanish (if only when you read the wrong side of a brochure at Home Depot and realize you understood it anyway), Latin, Italian, Portuguese, etc. Interlingua doesn’t claim to serve any community outside European language users, but it does succeed at that, I think. Overall interlingua is about as simple and regular as can be. A Chinese speaker might still be better off learning English but I can’t imagine they’d find interlingua any harder than any natural language.
  - nmz 4y ago
    FWIW As a non native English speaker, it is a terrible language to learn and understand. I have been using it for 2 decades and I still need subtitles for movies, not to mention all the irregularity and exceptions to rules (Honestly, when you have more exceptions than rules, can you even say you have rules at all).
  - Dhghomon- 4y ago
    >Overall interlingua is about as simple and regular as can be. Interlingua never cared much about simplicity and regularity and it shows. Occidental before it has something called De Wahl's Rule that is focused on achieving as much regularity as possible while being easy to read at first sight. Here's how it works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Wahl%27s_rule#Rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Wahl%27s_rule#Rule
leke 4y ago
There's a great comic that characterises this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeC8E8RaEAAxMxi?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeC8E8RaEAAxMxi?format=jpg&name=...
poulpy123 4y ago
Well no, Interlingua maybe tried to be a better Esperanto, but if so it completely failed. Esperanto is the only constructed language than became a real language and not a nice thought experiment
- nmz 4y ago
  I fail to see how something "completely fails" and is being talked about here...

by nmz 4y ago

F3nd0 4y ago

Esperanto was always another language to learn. The idea was never that you people would be able to read Esperanto without learning it; that's pretty much impossible, considering the diversity between languages (even looking just at Europe). The idea was to have a language that would be easy to learn and speak, owing to a simple, regular grammar, and using internationally recognisable words where possible. Interlingua may be readily intelligible to speakers of Romance languages, but is its grammar any simpler than Esperanto's? Or is comparatively more complex and difficult to learn? Because that's what ultimately matters for the rest of the world's population who do not speak a Romance language.

PaulHoule 4y ago
English has a lot of Latin in it, plus if you are a cosmopolitan English speaker you probably get exposed to some French, Spanish (if only when you read the wrong side of a brochure at Home Depot and realize you understood it anyway), Latin, Italian, Portuguese, etc. Interlingua doesn’t claim to serve any community outside European language users, but it does succeed at that, I think. Overall interlingua is about as simple and regular as can be. A Chinese speaker might still be better off learning English but I can’t imagine they’d find interlingua any harder than any natural language.
- nmz 4y ago
  FWIW As a non native English speaker, it is a terrible language to learn and understand. I have been using it for 2 decades and I still need subtitles for movies, not to mention all the irregularity and exceptions to rules (Honestly, when you have more exceptions than rules, can you even say you have rules at all).
- Dhghomon- 4y ago
  >Overall interlingua is about as simple and regular as can be. Interlingua never cared much about simplicity and regularity and it shows. Occidental before it has something called De Wahl's Rule that is focused on achieving as much regularity as possible while being easy to read at first sight. Here's how it works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Wahl%27s_rule#Rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Wahl%27s_rule#Rule

leke 4y ago

There's a great comic that characterises this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeC8E8RaEAAxMxi?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeC8E8RaEAAxMxi?format=jpg&name=...

poulpy123 4y ago

Well no, Interlingua maybe tried to be a better Esperanto, but if so it completely failed. Esperanto is the only constructed language than became a real language and not a nice thought experiment

nmz 4y ago
I fail to see how something "completely fails" and is being talked about here...