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Per my observation over the years, India immigrants are unique at hi-tech job market, when one India became a manager, over one or two years, all his team is pr

Per my observation over the years, India immigrants are unique at hi-tech job market, when one India became a manager, over one or two years, all his team is pretty much filled up with people from India, this is unseen in other ethnic groups like Chinese, Japanese, or any other races. I can not stop thinking if they violated Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) laws in US.

praz4HN 4y ago
Sounds suspiciously like anecdata...
- MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
  I've heard this before. So now you've got two anecdata.
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koshergweilo 4y ago
That's very interesting because my boss is Indian and he hired only one other Indian person out of like ten new hires over the years. Then again, my company does have a lot of diversity and inclusion folks looking over the hiring process, so either D&I in my company is unusually effective or your anecdote is just an anecdote. Maybe we shouldn't be painting millions of people with the same brush because of some patterns our brains happened to notice
makeitdouble 4y ago
Isn't it the same phenomenon as hiring alumni from your graduated school ? I've anecdotally seen it happen again and again with the universities of the recruiting managers being overly represented in the candidate pool. To note, Indians have a closer affinity to english putting them in an interesting position when moving to the US/UK (where I suppose you live). That affects wether the immigrant pool has a pretty normal social distribution or if the people getting out of their country are also used to getting out of their comfort zones. Japanese are specially affected by this, and workers that decided to go abroad will be less flocking into disporia communities.
kumarm 4y ago
I am an Indian immigrant CEO. None of my direct reports are of Indian origin. You hire the best people you can find for the job you have.
stubish 4y ago
Personal networks are a huge factor. My network? Pretty much tapped out of hiring leads soon after university. I got 2 applicants to apply over the last 15 years, and there was a decent hiring bonus. What sort of networks might these Indian managers and their subordinates have? Lots of eager, qualified applicants, especially from people still with family, friends or cultural connections in India. And these applicants have a sympathetic ear, who will not toss their application in the bin, who will in general be more familiar with visa and immigration rules regarding these applicants. And the manager gets first dibs in a tough yet still discriminatory market.
dmix 4y ago
People preferring to work with people from their own (sub)cultures, languages, and social networks (networks which often develop in schools) is pretty normal and I don't see it as inherently a bad thing. In an ideal world you hire from a broad pool of people from the public but in reality hiring people you know tends to lower risk and a natural phenomenon. But obviously it shouldn't be a hard rule, talent and applicable skills/personality should be what comes first every time. If the company is entirely all Indian, over a long period of time, when they work in a diverse city then it's probably a sign they aren't looking broadly enough for talent and that is not just negatively biased socially, it's also bad for business.
npinterview 4y ago
India is 1/5 of the world and IT is the very best way up for millions of Indians. The talent pool is generally over represented by Indians. I have been rejected a few times by HR (western) for not being a cultural fit. Indian managers do not generally have the same problem, network can be a better explanation.

praz4HN 4y ago

Sounds suspiciously like anecdata...

MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
I've heard this before. So now you've got two anecdata.
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koshergweilo 4y ago

That's very interesting because my boss is Indian and he hired only one other Indian person out of like ten new hires over the years. Then again, my company does have a lot of diversity and inclusion folks looking over the hiring process, so either D&I in my company is unusually effective or your anecdote is just an anecdote. Maybe we shouldn't be painting millions of people with the same brush because of some patterns our brains happened to notice

makeitdouble 4y ago

Isn't it the same phenomenon as hiring alumni from your graduated school ? I've anecdotally seen it happen again and again with the universities of the recruiting managers being overly represented in the candidate pool. To note, Indians have a closer affinity to english putting them in an interesting position when moving to the US/UK (where I suppose you live). That affects wether the immigrant pool has a pretty normal social distribution or if the people getting out of their country are also used to getting out of their comfort zones. Japanese are specially affected by this, and workers that decided to go abroad will be less flocking into disporia communities.

kumarm 4y ago

I am an Indian immigrant CEO. None of my direct reports are of Indian origin. You hire the best people you can find for the job you have.

stubish 4y ago

Personal networks are a huge factor. My network? Pretty much tapped out of hiring leads soon after university. I got 2 applicants to apply over the last 15 years, and there was a decent hiring bonus. What sort of networks might these Indian managers and their subordinates have? Lots of eager, qualified applicants, especially from people still with family, friends or cultural connections in India. And these applicants have a sympathetic ear, who will not toss their application in the bin, who will in general be more familiar with visa and immigration rules regarding these applicants. And the manager gets first dibs in a tough yet still discriminatory market.

dmix 4y ago

People preferring to work with people from their own (sub)cultures, languages, and social networks (networks which often develop in schools) is pretty normal and I don't see it as inherently a bad thing. In an ideal world you hire from a broad pool of people from the public but in reality hiring people you know tends to lower risk and a natural phenomenon. But obviously it shouldn't be a hard rule, talent and applicable skills/personality should be what comes first every time. If the company is entirely all Indian, over a long period of time, when they work in a diverse city then it's probably a sign they aren't looking broadly enough for talent and that is not just negatively biased socially, it's also bad for business.

npinterview 4y ago

India is 1/5 of the world and IT is the very best way up for millions of Indians. The talent pool is generally over represented by Indians. I have been rejected a few times by HR (western) for not being a cultural fit. Indian managers do not generally have the same problem, network can be a better explanation.