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see my reply to a different person in this thread: slow ram, low quality graphics, historic build issues, extreme pricing. apple’s selling an overpriced os on a

see my reply to a different person in this thread: slow ram, low quality graphics, historic build issues, extreme pricing. apple’s selling an overpriced os on above average hardware - but still not superior. edit: plus there’s limited support for other os’.

nvrspyx 4y ago
Really? I thought the recent MacBooks use LPDDR5 modules and have significantly higher bandwidth than e.g. Framework laptops. Although I'm not super familiar with the graphics side, I also thought the Apple silicon graphics were comparable to AMD and Nvidia laptop GPUs while also being especially more power efficient. I can't disagree with the historical build issues, the pricing, or limited OS support, although the latter two doesn't seem to make the hardware rubbish.
- yrgulation 4y ago
  from what i read LPDDR5 ram is planned for upcoming versions of macbook pros and is not yet there. but i am certain once it comes out it will be the slower version compared to what you could get for the money on a custom laptop. if your expectation is to use the macbook pro as a text editor (ide) and video chat then yes its powerful. but if you want games and the ability to install other os’ then its not really that cool, for the money.
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  - einr 4y ago
    The M1 Max pushes 400 GB/sec. In what world is that "slow RAM" and what laptop -- or desktop -- computer can you buy that is faster than that?
    - yrgulation 4y ago
      you are confusing cpu bandwidth with ram bandwidth. no surprised tbh. apple’s marketing sounds a bit like “it’s got electrolytes”. unified memory is fast but not new and definitely not that fast. do people actually think that apple’s ram runs at 400 gb/s?
      - wtallis 4y ago
        > you are confusing cpu bandwidth with ram bandwidth. no surprised tbh. Care to explain what you think "cpu bandwidth" means? Also, I recommend looking at some real measurements: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performance-review/2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc...
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  - nvrspyx 4y ago
    I think LPDDR5X is planned for the upcoming versions while the current versions use LPDDR5.

nvrspyx 4y ago

Really? I thought the recent MacBooks use LPDDR5 modules and have significantly higher bandwidth than e.g. Framework laptops. Although I'm not super familiar with the graphics side, I also thought the Apple silicon graphics were comparable to AMD and Nvidia laptop GPUs while also being especially more power efficient. I can't disagree with the historical build issues, the pricing, or limited OS support, although the latter two doesn't seem to make the hardware rubbish.

yrgulation 4y ago
from what i read LPDDR5 ram is planned for upcoming versions of macbook pros and is not yet there. but i am certain once it comes out it will be the slower version compared to what you could get for the money on a custom laptop. if your expectation is to use the macbook pro as a text editor (ide) and video chat then yes its powerful. but if you want games and the ability to install other os’ then its not really that cool, for the money.
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- einr 4y ago
  The M1 Max pushes 400 GB/sec. In what world is that "slow RAM" and what laptop -- or desktop -- computer can you buy that is faster than that?
  - yrgulation 4y ago
    you are confusing cpu bandwidth with ram bandwidth. no surprised tbh. apple’s marketing sounds a bit like “it’s got electrolytes”. unified memory is fast but not new and definitely not that fast. do people actually think that apple’s ram runs at 400 gb/s?
    - wtallis 4y ago
      > you are confusing cpu bandwidth with ram bandwidth. no surprised tbh. Care to explain what you think "cpu bandwidth" means? Also, I recommend looking at some real measurements: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performance-review/2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc...
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- nvrspyx 4y ago
  I think LPDDR5X is planned for the upcoming versions while the current versions use LPDDR5.