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Signals existence was too inconvenient for oppressive governments/law enforcement, so instead they've been subverted.

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RunSet 4y ago
https://getsession.org/ https://getsession.org/ * Doesn't require users to provide a phone number. * Doesn't use centralized servers. Hopefully Session will stay legit for a while. Just when I get most of my contacts to use Signal, Signal moves to embed a cryptocurrency in the app and starts pushing Storytime. https://www.stephendiehl.com/blog/signal.html https://www.stephendiehl.com/blog/signal.html
- user764743 4y ago
  F-Droid list them as having anti-features "the upstream source code is not entirely free" - how are we supposed to know if it does what it says it does if it's proprietary?
  - RunSet 4y ago
    That appears to be because Session uses Firebase as a dependency. https://github.com/opendocument-app/OpenDocument.droid/issues/200 https://github.com/opendocument-app/OpenDocument.droid/issue... Per F-Droid's definition of "the upstream source code is not entirely free": https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Anti-Features/#UpstreamNonFree https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Anti-Features/#UpstreamNonFree This seems to be a case of "damned if you do; damned if you don't". Session relies on Firebase to get faster notifications from Google servers. This can be disabled in the applications preferences but changes the behavior from push-notifications to polling Session's decentralized messaging network, which makes messages notifications slower. https://getsession.org/faq#push-notifications https://getsession.org/faq#push-notifications For the sake of clarity it would be nice if instead of making such a vague pronouncement, F-Droid would specify precisely what about the upstream source code is not entirely free. https://forum.f-droid.org/t/the-upstream-source-code-is-not-entirely-free/15233/4 https://forum.f-droid.org/t/the-upstream-source-code-is-not-...

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https://getsession.org/ https://getsession.org/ * Doesn't require users to provide a phone number. * Doesn't use centralized servers. Hopefully Session will stay legit for a while. Just when I get most of my contacts to use Signal, Signal moves to embed a cryptocurrency in the app and starts pushing Storytime. https://www.stephendiehl.com/blog/signal.html https://www.stephendiehl.com/blog/signal.html

user764743 4y ago
F-Droid list them as having anti-features "the upstream source code is not entirely free" - how are we supposed to know if it does what it says it does if it's proprietary?
- RunSet 4y ago
  That appears to be because Session uses Firebase as a dependency. https://github.com/opendocument-app/OpenDocument.droid/issues/200 https://github.com/opendocument-app/OpenDocument.droid/issue... Per F-Droid's definition of "the upstream source code is not entirely free": https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Anti-Features/#UpstreamNonFree https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Anti-Features/#UpstreamNonFree This seems to be a case of "damned if you do; damned if you don't". Session relies on Firebase to get faster notifications from Google servers. This can be disabled in the applications preferences but changes the behavior from push-notifications to polling Session's decentralized messaging network, which makes messages notifications slower. https://getsession.org/faq#push-notifications https://getsession.org/faq#push-notifications For the sake of clarity it would be nice if instead of making such a vague pronouncement, F-Droid would specify precisely what about the upstream source code is not entirely free. https://forum.f-droid.org/t/the-upstream-source-code-is-not-entirely-free/15233/4 https://forum.f-droid.org/t/the-upstream-source-code-is-not-...