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You think it's true taht they get a lot more than that from "other tech companies"? (who is that? Facebook? Tik-tok?) (As an aside, it seems cute that the guy

You think it's true taht they get a lot more than that from "other tech companies"? (who is that? Facebook? Tik-tok?) (As an aside, it seems cute that the guy thinks the change in ownership somehow makes it "safer" for him to share inside details, but I'm glad he did)

modriano 4y ago
I assume most free weather app companies make money nearly exclusively by selling user location data.
ericbarrett 4y ago
Your (U.S.A.) cell network provider sells your location. No need for apps!
- jrochkind1 4y ago
  In this case wasn't it was a cell network provider wanting the info from twitter? why'd they want it if they already have it?
  - jagged-chisel 4y ago
    Probably to correlate Twitter user names with telco customers.
    - HWR_14 4y ago
      Oh, wow. I didn't even think the request included Twitter handles.
  - shiftpgdn 4y ago
    They (the telcos) only have stats on their customers. Twitter has it for anyone running twitter. Further, twitters location data is likely more accurate than the telco due to positioning from stuff like wifi names, local gps, etc.
ricardobayes 4y ago
I think it was just a bluff.
HWR_14 4y ago
> it seems cute that the guy thinks the change in ownership somehow makes it "safer" for him to share inside details If the change in ownership means "I am never going back, time to set that bridge on fire" he's absolutely right it's "safer". Or simply if he thinks "It is now acceptable to future employers to do this", it is also safer. Or maybe it was something that he now sees as a greater threat, and therefore is worth mentioning even if is not safer or even riskier.
- DannyBee 4y ago
  It's not safer (and in fact probably the opposite) from a liability standpoint.
  - HWR_14 4y ago
    It depends on what you mean by liability. If you mean they have a 7+ year NDA, and the NDA covers undone features. then, yeah I guess Musk is more likely to sue. Maybe. Or maybe he'll love getting to shout how he would never do that, look how cool he is. But I focused on reputational risk.
mistrial9 4y ago
when the covid-19 pandemic came into real force (May?) I definitely saw a sample report from MAPBOX that showed aggregate consumer movement in the New England area, with extensive, quantitative classification on visits to retail, restaurant and public sites like schools. The visual was each and every individual track, but as lines of the same color. So the data on each individual track was there, but not named in the report. There were hundreds of thousands of input tracks, for some time range. The context was "were people violating lockdown, travelling to what destination" .. retail and restaurant were very prominent in the report.

modriano 4y ago

I assume most free weather app companies make money nearly exclusively by selling user location data.

ericbarrett 4y ago

Your (U.S.A.) cell network provider sells your location. No need for apps!

jrochkind1 4y ago
In this case wasn't it was a cell network provider wanting the info from twitter? why'd they want it if they already have it?
- jagged-chisel 4y ago
  Probably to correlate Twitter user names with telco customers.
  - HWR_14 4y ago
    Oh, wow. I didn't even think the request included Twitter handles.
- shiftpgdn 4y ago
  They (the telcos) only have stats on their customers. Twitter has it for anyone running twitter. Further, twitters location data is likely more accurate than the telco due to positioning from stuff like wifi names, local gps, etc.

ricardobayes 4y ago

I think it was just a bluff.

HWR_14 4y ago

> it seems cute that the guy thinks the change in ownership somehow makes it "safer" for him to share inside details If the change in ownership means "I am never going back, time to set that bridge on fire" he's absolutely right it's "safer". Or simply if he thinks "It is now acceptable to future employers to do this", it is also safer. Or maybe it was something that he now sees as a greater threat, and therefore is worth mentioning even if is not safer or even riskier.

DannyBee 4y ago
It's not safer (and in fact probably the opposite) from a liability standpoint.
- HWR_14 4y ago
  It depends on what you mean by liability. If you mean they have a 7+ year NDA, and the NDA covers undone features. then, yeah I guess Musk is more likely to sue. Maybe. Or maybe he'll love getting to shout how he would never do that, look how cool he is. But I focused on reputational risk.

mistrial9 4y ago

when the covid-19 pandemic came into real force (May?) I definitely saw a sample report from MAPBOX that showed aggregate consumer movement in the New England area, with extensive, quantitative classification on visits to retail, restaurant and public sites like schools. The visual was each and every individual track, but as lines of the same color. So the data on each individual track was there, but not named in the report. There were hundreds of thousands of input tracks, for some time range. The context was "were people violating lockdown, travelling to what destination" .. retail and restaurant were very prominent in the report.