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Disregard this comment. This feature, while disappointing to me, is a fine addition to Signal for many people who would like to use the Story format without sno

Disregard this comment. This feature, while disappointing to me, is a fine addition to Signal for many people who would like to use the Story format without snooping or ads from Meta. That is a good thing and we should celebrate it. I previously commented something much more negative and snarky. I regret it.

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pvg 4y ago
Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes [...] Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dont__panic 4y ago
  It might be a smidge snarky, but it's literally the only justification Signal provides for adding this feature to their app. Why is it not OK to analyze their reasoning?
  - pvg 4y ago
    Because it's not analysis, just generic sneering. Picking N boring things to complain about is not any better than picking one boring thing to complain about.
    - dont__panic 4y ago
      Thanks for calling this out. I was grumpy and unfair. I'll remember this in the future and try to do better.
      - pvg 4y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1096677 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1096677 I wouldn't write this today either - it was a much, much smaller HN and a smaller nerd internet. Although amusingly enough, the Rails release notes were edited after that showed up on HN but I don't think Signal is going to give you even that satisfaction, sadly.
enragedcacti 4y ago
People aren't expecting to get quote sniped so they assume that you have read the previous section where they explain in exacting detail what value they see in the story format. > In the past years, stories have emerged as a new way to communicate, with their own unique purposes, norms, and idiosyncrasies. Ephemeral, low-stakes, and image-heavy, people use stories to share updates about their lives without the expectation of a response. > Sometimes you just need a chill way to show your crush that you went to a very cool concert, without having to text them. Stories let you share your life with a select group of people in a way that doesn’t result in a new message notification. They give you a place to tell the kinds of jokes that work better in a sequential image or video format, and to share what you’re doing without the pressure of a conversation. > Stories have emerged to serve these specific functions and others in the broader communications landscape, and many of us have integrated them as one of the ways that we connect with one another. That’s why they have a natural place in any messaging app, including Signal. > Stories also happen to be one of the most common feature requests we receive from all over the world. People use them, people want them, so we’re providing a way to do stories privately. And without having to wade through a sea of ads.
- dont__panic 4y ago
  Good point. I do not like the Story format, so I'm pretty prejudiced against them. The author does a good job earlier in the announcement of explaining the reasoning, so my sniping above is exactly that -- unfair sneering. Thanks for calling me out here. It goes to show that even when you feel very grumpy about a change, you shouldn't resort to unfair arguments like I did.

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pvg 4y ago

Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes [...] Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dont__panic 4y ago
It might be a smidge snarky, but it's literally the only justification Signal provides for adding this feature to their app. Why is it not OK to analyze their reasoning?
- pvg 4y ago
  Because it's not analysis, just generic sneering. Picking N boring things to complain about is not any better than picking one boring thing to complain about.
  - dont__panic 4y ago
    Thanks for calling this out. I was grumpy and unfair. I'll remember this in the future and try to do better.
    - pvg 4y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1096677 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1096677 I wouldn't write this today either - it was a much, much smaller HN and a smaller nerd internet. Although amusingly enough, the Rails release notes were edited after that showed up on HN but I don't think Signal is going to give you even that satisfaction, sadly.

enragedcacti 4y ago

People aren't expecting to get quote sniped so they assume that you have read the previous section where they explain in exacting detail what value they see in the story format. > In the past years, stories have emerged as a new way to communicate, with their own unique purposes, norms, and idiosyncrasies. Ephemeral, low-stakes, and image-heavy, people use stories to share updates about their lives without the expectation of a response. > Sometimes you just need a chill way to show your crush that you went to a very cool concert, without having to text them. Stories let you share your life with a select group of people in a way that doesn’t result in a new message notification. They give you a place to tell the kinds of jokes that work better in a sequential image or video format, and to share what you’re doing without the pressure of a conversation. > Stories have emerged to serve these specific functions and others in the broader communications landscape, and many of us have integrated them as one of the ways that we connect with one another. That’s why they have a natural place in any messaging app, including Signal. > Stories also happen to be one of the most common feature requests we receive from all over the world. People use them, people want them, so we’re providing a way to do stories privately. And without having to wade through a sea of ads.

dont__panic 4y ago
Good point. I do not like the Story format, so I'm pretty prejudiced against them. The author does a good job earlier in the announcement of explaining the reasoning, so my sniping above is exactly that -- unfair sneering. Thanks for calling me out here. It goes to show that even when you feel very grumpy about a change, you shouldn't resort to unfair arguments like I did.