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“the US is doing the same to other countries” Source? “If some random Russian not can trigger a coup” It’s still an act of aggression regardless of whether t

“the US is doing the same to other countries” Source? “If some random Russian not can trigger a coup” It’s still an act of aggression regardless of whether the US is equipped to deal with it. While I agree that the US does lots of shitty things, we have way more checks and balances than our key enemies. For one, it is the people who elect those who represent us.

vetinari 4y ago
> “the US is doing the same to other countries” > Source? Not even hiding it: https://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html https://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.htm...
zmaurelius 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r... I think it would be naive to think similar programs are not being enacted in the present day.
- aylmao 4y ago
  John Bolton has been directly involved with foreign policy at least since he first worked at the State Department (the department responsible for the USAs foreign policy and relations) in 1989. He has openly been a an advocate for military action and regime change by the US in several countries[1]. Recently he also openly mentioned his role in helping plan coups d'etat in an interview, when asked about the events on January 6th that followed the 2020 election: "As somebody who has helped plan coups d'etat— not here but you know (in) other places— it takes a lot of work." [2] Also, tragically enough, he in fact served as the 25th United States Ambassador to the United Nations. Just a reminder, when listing its principles, the first point of the UN's foundational charter reads: "The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members." The USA counting a self-proclaimed "coup planner" as their ambassador to the UN can give us an idea of how fundamental interfering (ie, "hacking") other nation's affairs is to their foreign policy, and how little it respects the sovereignty of nations. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bolton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bolton [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRvMJDTrL2E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRvMJDTrL2E [3]: https://legal.un.org/repertory/art2.shtml https://legal.un.org/repertory/art2.shtml
- quonn 4y ago
  Those programs did not remain hidden then, why would they now?
SadTrombone 4y ago
If in 2022 you're seriously asking for a source for US interference in sovereign nations and their elections, you have some serious reading to do.

vetinari 4y ago

> “the US is doing the same to other countries” > Source? Not even hiding it: https://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html https://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.htm...

zmaurelius 4y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r... I think it would be naive to think similar programs are not being enacted in the present day.

aylmao 4y ago
John Bolton has been directly involved with foreign policy at least since he first worked at the State Department (the department responsible for the USAs foreign policy and relations) in 1989. He has openly been a an advocate for military action and regime change by the US in several countries[1]. Recently he also openly mentioned his role in helping plan coups d'etat in an interview, when asked about the events on January 6th that followed the 2020 election: "As somebody who has helped plan coups d'etat— not here but you know (in) other places— it takes a lot of work." [2] Also, tragically enough, he in fact served as the 25th United States Ambassador to the United Nations. Just a reminder, when listing its principles, the first point of the UN's foundational charter reads: "The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members." The USA counting a self-proclaimed "coup planner" as their ambassador to the UN can give us an idea of how fundamental interfering (ie, "hacking") other nation's affairs is to their foreign policy, and how little it respects the sovereignty of nations. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bolton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bolton [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRvMJDTrL2E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRvMJDTrL2E [3]: https://legal.un.org/repertory/art2.shtml https://legal.un.org/repertory/art2.shtml
quonn 4y ago
Those programs did not remain hidden then, why would they now?

SadTrombone 4y ago

If in 2022 you're seriously asking for a source for US interference in sovereign nations and their elections, you have some serious reading to do.