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Space weapons is a pandoras box I don't think we want to open.

petre 4y ago
China and Russia will do it, just like with the hypersonic missiles and that nuclear torpedo/UUV designed to take out coastal cities.
- georgeg23 4y ago
  From my reading, China is only looking at it in response to the US.
  - UncleEntity 4y ago
    And the US is only doing it to protect the dollar being the global reserve currency from people like Musk. At least that’s what TFA is trying to pull out of their asses.
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    No, it's more simple. China wants to be world hegemon by 2049. Everything China does is aimed at that.
  - Attrecomet 4y ago
    Military technology is subject to very real, very dangerous prisoners' dilemmas. In a way it doesn't matter if one side is starting it or not, the real question is if it can be ruled out that either one of the sides could be doing it. And it's shit, because unilaterally declaring you're not gonna do it won't work at all, so there needs to be enough trust between the parties to institute a supervision regime, otherwise, if something is technological possible and promises military benefits, it will be done sooner rather than later.
georgeg23 4y ago
I agree space weapons are a bad idea, but I think Elon isn't JUST doing it for the money. He sincerely believes it's needed to stop nuclear war. The counterpoint is that it could start WWIII
- loceng 4y ago
  I suppose so long as whomever is control of the space superiority, and it's used only as a suppression system - similar to the Iron Dome providing a fairly effective wall to protest Israel, then it doesn't matter if someone gets annoyed that all of their missiles can be efficiently knocked down. If that system is however deployed and its controller launches its own missiles in attack, while suppressing others', then that's a very big problem - and probably very close to a total global tyrannical control state.
  - kidme5 4y ago
    We might all have to live underground in tunnels
  - Attrecomet 4y ago
    Satellite mounted weapons systems that can block ballistic missiles, i.e. reach at least into the upper atmosphere, but can't ever be used offensively? That seems like a tall order. In addition, anything making MAD impossible will have very, very far reaching consequences for world politics, many of which are offensive. Any state that can unilaterally deploy nukes without fear of reprisal is on it's way to the total global tyranny you mention.

China and Russia will do it, just like with the hypersonic missiles and that nuclear torpedo/UUV designed to take out coastal cities.

georgeg23 4y ago
From my reading, China is only looking at it in response to the US.
- UncleEntity 4y ago
  And the US is only doing it to protect the dollar being the global reserve currency from people like Musk. At least that’s what TFA is trying to pull out of their asses.
- clouddrover 4y ago
  No, it's more simple. China wants to be world hegemon by 2049. Everything China does is aimed at that.
- Attrecomet 4y ago
  Military technology is subject to very real, very dangerous prisoners' dilemmas. In a way it doesn't matter if one side is starting it or not, the real question is if it can be ruled out that either one of the sides could be doing it. And it's shit, because unilaterally declaring you're not gonna do it won't work at all, so there needs to be enough trust between the parties to institute a supervision regime, otherwise, if something is technological possible and promises military benefits, it will be done sooner rather than later.

georgeg23 4y ago

I agree space weapons are a bad idea, but I think Elon isn't JUST doing it for the money. He sincerely believes it's needed to stop nuclear war. The counterpoint is that it could start WWIII

loceng 4y ago
I suppose so long as whomever is control of the space superiority, and it's used only as a suppression system - similar to the Iron Dome providing a fairly effective wall to protest Israel, then it doesn't matter if someone gets annoyed that all of their missiles can be efficiently knocked down. If that system is however deployed and its controller launches its own missiles in attack, while suppressing others', then that's a very big problem - and probably very close to a total global tyrannical control state.
- kidme5 4y ago
  We might all have to live underground in tunnels
- Attrecomet 4y ago
  Satellite mounted weapons systems that can block ballistic missiles, i.e. reach at least into the upper atmosphere, but can't ever be used offensively? That seems like a tall order. In addition, anything making MAD impossible will have very, very far reaching consequences for world politics, many of which are offensive. Any state that can unilaterally deploy nukes without fear of reprisal is on it's way to the total global tyranny you mention.