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>Before Musk's takeover Twitter was reliable, predictable and somewhat boring. In what ways? And in what ways do you think federated servers that don't agree

by EricE 4y ago

>Before Musk's takeover Twitter was reliable, predictable and somewhat boring. In what ways? And in what ways do you think federated servers that don't agree on what rules to apply and lack any sort of mechanism for global, centralized control will make Mastodon reliable, predictable or even somewhat boring?!?

afavour 4y ago
> In what ways? Twitter's product has been static for years, barring perhaps the introduction of Twitter Spaces, which has barely made a dent in usage (as far as I can see, anyway). I personally regard this as a negative: I think that they should have been innovating more. But if I were a major brand looking at my advertising commitments I'd probably be fine with it. > And in what ways do you think federated servers that don't agree on what rules to apply and lack any sort of mechanism for global, centralized control will make Mastodon reliable, predictable or even somewhat boring?!? I don't personally think Mastodon is the answer so I'm probably not well positioned to answer this. But if my organization sets up its own Mastodon instance I'm free to ignore what the larger Mastodon ecosystem is doing, if I want to. It is under my control and can't be bought out by a memelord playing a prank gone wrong.
- EricE 4y ago
  >But if my organization sets up its own Mastodon instance I'm free to ignore what the larger Mastodon ecosystem is doing, if I want to. You have the same tools to block on Twitter. There is literally no difference.
  - afavour 4y ago
    Of course there is. On Twitter someone could sign up, pretend to be a member of my organization, pay $8 to get a verified checkmark and there's very little I can do about it. If I own my own Mastodon instance I can kick them off (or stop them from signing up in the first place)
    - TeMPOraL 4y ago
      Meanwhile before the acquisition, on Twitter, someone could sign up and pretend to be a member of your organization and... there was still very little you could do about it. Verified checkmark is a red herring, because it's not something you could guarantee for yourself or other members of your org. You were better off - and still are - with something like Keybase, or... well just not using Twitter for anything important in the first place.
    - EricE 4y ago
      If twitter fraudulently verified something there is absolutely something you could do - you could sue. And it would be pretty clear cut. And all you can do on Mastodon is moderate your server - they can still be out there in the greater Mastodon community and there is even less you can do about that than you have recourse with Twitter. All this sudden pearl clutching sure is amusing.

by EricE 4y ago

afavour 4y ago

> In what ways? Twitter's product has been static for years, barring perhaps the introduction of Twitter Spaces, which has barely made a dent in usage (as far as I can see, anyway). I personally regard this as a negative: I think that they should have been innovating more. But if I were a major brand looking at my advertising commitments I'd probably be fine with it. > And in what ways do you think federated servers that don't agree on what rules to apply and lack any sort of mechanism for global, centralized control will make Mastodon reliable, predictable or even somewhat boring?!? I don't personally think Mastodon is the answer so I'm probably not well positioned to answer this. But if my organization sets up its own Mastodon instance I'm free to ignore what the larger Mastodon ecosystem is doing, if I want to. It is under my control and can't be bought out by a memelord playing a prank gone wrong.

EricE 4y ago
>But if my organization sets up its own Mastodon instance I'm free to ignore what the larger Mastodon ecosystem is doing, if I want to. You have the same tools to block on Twitter. There is literally no difference.
- afavour 4y ago
  Of course there is. On Twitter someone could sign up, pretend to be a member of my organization, pay $8 to get a verified checkmark and there's very little I can do about it. If I own my own Mastodon instance I can kick them off (or stop them from signing up in the first place)
  - TeMPOraL 4y ago
    Meanwhile before the acquisition, on Twitter, someone could sign up and pretend to be a member of your organization and... there was still very little you could do about it. Verified checkmark is a red herring, because it's not something you could guarantee for yourself or other members of your org. You were better off - and still are - with something like Keybase, or... well just not using Twitter for anything important in the first place.
  - EricE 4y ago
    If twitter fraudulently verified something there is absolutely something you could do - you could sue. And it would be pretty clear cut. And all you can do on Mastodon is moderate your server - they can still be out there in the greater Mastodon community and there is even less you can do about that than you have recourse with Twitter. All this sudden pearl clutching sure is amusing.