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Yes seem to be writing sarcastically and I'm not sure why. You are right, I, like many people, believe Elon is going to ruin Twitter, possibly bankrupting it.

Yes seem to be writing sarcastically and I'm not sure why. You are right, I, like many people, believe Elon is going to ruin Twitter, possibly bankrupting it. Therefore it is worth looking at alternatives. The ruining of Twitter makes alternatives more attractive.

mberning 4y ago
You weren't worried about it going bankrupt when it was losing millions of dollars a day and running in the red for years on end?
- dimitrios1 4y ago
  Once again, self proclaimed rational thinkers and scientific and engineering minds can't see their glaring biases. As long as my team is winning all of the problems "aren't so bad", but as soon as it's the other team, everything is a firebrand. Metas preparing to have massive layoffs and yet here we are arguing over someone making obvious and I mean obvious business decisions to cut waste, bloat, and start turning some profitability. We've lamented some of these financial woes about Twitter here for years, and now someone finally has started walking the walk and all of a sudden the world is ending and its time to jump ship?
- mechanical_bear 4y ago
  RocketMan bad.
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  It was so poorly run that there's a chance Musk could have come in, fucked up pretty badly, and still maybe improved the books. However, given the debt he's saddled it with as part of the buy-out, their situation is a lot worse than it was before. I don't see how it's salvageable.
  - TeMPOraL 4y ago
    > I don't see how it's salvageable. If Musk is so much of a shrewd, evil business shark it's been portrayed as in the last months, you can imagine he'll find some nasty underhanded way to attach Twitter to an IV with Starlink on the other end, and flood it with money until the blue bird is back on its feet.
TeMPOraL 4y ago
> Yes seem to be writing sarcastically and I'm not sure why. Because it's hard to write any other way when people are losing their minds over a storm in a teacup. Literally nothing meaningful has changed about Twitter in the last few months. This is an entirely self-induced panic, based on a couple cases of someone maliciously misinterpreting a tweet here and there and everyone else amplifying it, and fueled by irrational fear and hatred towards Musk. It would be funny to watch, if it were not saturating the media channels 24/7. Twitter's future wasn't in any way more certain before, nor was the platform any more stable. Adding or removing random features, and screwing third parties over API T&C changes, were pretty much the trademark of Twitter already.
- Analemma_ 4y ago
  > Literally nothing meaningful has changed about Twitter in the last few months. Twitter now has a burden of $1 billion in interest payments per year, which it did not several months ago. That's pretty meaningful. Completely apart from anything about Elon, it would be entirely reasonable to expect this additional burden to make the product worse, as debt obligations often do.
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    It looks like he might try to monetize everything, which would mean that he won't need any help to destroy Twitter entirely. I would hope this would benefit Mastodon, but Mastodon has technical problems, so instead I think it will ultimately benefit Facebook's future internal twitter clone.
- thebooktocome 4y ago
  > Literally nothing meaningful has changed about Twitter in the last few months. But things probably will change meaningfully in the near future. You’d have to ignore everything the new CEO is saying, in order to believe otherwise. People trade futures options all the time.
  - TeMPOraL 4y ago

mberning 4y ago

You weren't worried about it going bankrupt when it was losing millions of dollars a day and running in the red for years on end?

dimitrios1 4y ago
Once again, self proclaimed rational thinkers and scientific and engineering minds can't see their glaring biases. As long as my team is winning all of the problems "aren't so bad", but as soon as it's the other team, everything is a firebrand. Metas preparing to have massive layoffs and yet here we are arguing over someone making obvious and I mean obvious business decisions to cut waste, bloat, and start turning some profitability. We've lamented some of these financial woes about Twitter here for years, and now someone finally has started walking the walk and all of a sudden the world is ending and its time to jump ship?
mechanical_bear 4y ago
RocketMan bad.
yamtaddle 4y ago
It was so poorly run that there's a chance Musk could have come in, fucked up pretty badly, and still maybe improved the books. However, given the debt he's saddled it with as part of the buy-out, their situation is a lot worse than it was before. I don't see how it's salvageable.
- TeMPOraL 4y ago
  > I don't see how it's salvageable. If Musk is so much of a shrewd, evil business shark it's been portrayed as in the last months, you can imagine he'll find some nasty underhanded way to attach Twitter to an IV with Starlink on the other end, and flood it with money until the blue bird is back on its feet.

TeMPOraL 4y ago

> Yes seem to be writing sarcastically and I'm not sure why. Because it's hard to write any other way when people are losing their minds over a storm in a teacup. Literally nothing meaningful has changed about Twitter in the last few months. This is an entirely self-induced panic, based on a couple cases of someone maliciously misinterpreting a tweet here and there and everyone else amplifying it, and fueled by irrational fear and hatred towards Musk. It would be funny to watch, if it were not saturating the media channels 24/7. Twitter's future wasn't in any way more certain before, nor was the platform any more stable. Adding or removing random features, and screwing third parties over API T&C changes, were pretty much the trademark of Twitter already.

Analemma_ 4y ago
> Literally nothing meaningful has changed about Twitter in the last few months. Twitter now has a burden of $1 billion in interest payments per year, which it did not several months ago. That's pretty meaningful. Completely apart from anything about Elon, it would be entirely reasonable to expect this additional burden to make the product worse, as debt obligations often do.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  It looks like he might try to monetize everything, which would mean that he won't need any help to destroy Twitter entirely. I would hope this would benefit Mastodon, but Mastodon has technical problems, so instead I think it will ultimately benefit Facebook's future internal twitter clone.
thebooktocome 4y ago
> Literally nothing meaningful has changed about Twitter in the last few months. But things probably will change meaningfully in the near future. You’d have to ignore everything the new CEO is saying, in order to believe otherwise. People trade futures options all the time.
- TeMPOraL 4y ago