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> The key phrase in your statement is "on a friends invite server." why is this a key statement? my point is that being on a friends server hasn't altered the

by toofy 4y ago

> The key phrase in your statement is "on a friends invite server." why is this a key statement? my point is that being on a friends server hasn't altered the experience at all. i migrated to my friends server a couple days ago from mastodon.social--i literally haven't noticed any difference at all, the experience from everything i can tell has been identical as it was prior. the server im on made literally no difference. i still follow the same people. i still have the exact same followers. my timeline is identical. i still see all of tehir posts. they still see mine. i still see posts they repost. again, i have noticed absolutely nothing meaningfully different. other than maybe the address i type into the address bar to reach the site, but i dont think thats "meaningful" in any meaningful ;) way.

pwinnski 4y ago
Today, I cannot sign up at "your friend's server" nor mastodon.social, so neither of those things help me. The phrase is key because it reflects a familiarity which new users do not have. Have you never in your life been introduced to an environment you didn't understand and felt put off by everybody using words you didn't know, or words you did know in ways you didn't understand? Never, in any situation? Because that's exactly how it feels for many, many, many new users of mastodon now.
- toofy 4y ago
  yes. of course i have. maybe we're talking past each other, i dont know, but... what im trying to say, again, is that their panicking is entirely unfounded. whether you create your account at mastodon.social, fosstodon.org, mastodon.online, vis.social, toot.cat, or your friends totallyraddomainname.com--its not a life or death decision. particularly because you can simply migrate to another server if you're picky about some minutia that most people don't care about. it feels like overblown fearmongering. sure, maybe they're experience analysis paralysis, which is definitely a problem sometimes for those who are terrified of technology, but at the end of the day it is over analyzing. one of the reasons mastodon so drastically overtook other federated attempts is because it made it possible to migrate without losing your followers, you just move and poof, you're done. it removes the importance to which server you choose.
  - pwinnski 4y ago
    Okay, so you're in the half of comments saying it really doesn't matter which server one picks. I hate to tell you this, but there are others recommending pretty strongly that one pick a server that aligns with their interests or identity, which is a challenge given that all available lists of servers seem to include a lot of exclusionary language, at least for me. As it happens, I picked a server earlier today, more or less at random (one that didn't manually review applications), so I'm set. But the experience was very negative, and fraught with apparent peril. If the choice of server matters so little, perhaps this site could be improved: https://joinmastodon.org/servers https://joinmastodon.org/servers

by toofy 4y ago

pwinnski 4y ago

Today, I cannot sign up at "your friend's server" nor mastodon.social, so neither of those things help me. The phrase is key because it reflects a familiarity which new users do not have. Have you never in your life been introduced to an environment you didn't understand and felt put off by everybody using words you didn't know, or words you did know in ways you didn't understand? Never, in any situation? Because that's exactly how it feels for many, many, many new users of mastodon now.

toofy 4y ago
yes. of course i have. maybe we're talking past each other, i dont know, but... what im trying to say, again, is that their panicking is entirely unfounded. whether you create your account at mastodon.social, fosstodon.org, mastodon.online, vis.social, toot.cat, or your friends totallyraddomainname.com--its not a life or death decision. particularly because you can simply migrate to another server if you're picky about some minutia that most people don't care about. it feels like overblown fearmongering. sure, maybe they're experience analysis paralysis, which is definitely a problem sometimes for those who are terrified of technology, but at the end of the day it is over analyzing. one of the reasons mastodon so drastically overtook other federated attempts is because it made it possible to migrate without losing your followers, you just move and poof, you're done. it removes the importance to which server you choose.
- pwinnski 4y ago
  Okay, so you're in the half of comments saying it really doesn't matter which server one picks. I hate to tell you this, but there are others recommending pretty strongly that one pick a server that aligns with their interests or identity, which is a challenge given that all available lists of servers seem to include a lot of exclusionary language, at least for me. As it happens, I picked a server earlier today, more or less at random (one that didn't manually review applications), so I'm set. But the experience was very negative, and fraught with apparent peril. If the choice of server matters so little, perhaps this site could be improved: https://joinmastodon.org/servers https://joinmastodon.org/servers