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This take is a disaster. So we get a decade of bloated frameworks to compensate for missing properties and then just when browsers are about to catch up and mak

This take is a disaster. So we get a decade of bloated frameworks to compensate for missing properties and then just when browsers are about to catch up and make all that cruft pointless we get people complaining about it. This isn't a thing. This is some software engineer edgelording. Yeah, we get it, you don't like CSS because you aren't good at it. Just stop.

_aleph2c_ 4y ago
What is an edgelord?: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-an-edgelord-slang-definition-words-were-watching https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-an-edg...
iquerno 4y ago
This reminds me of how the whole philosophy of python is 'simplicity', but the moment you want to start building something you must be reminded of how you haven't updated to the latest version of gnu-anaconda-conda-py-pip3-x86_64-cpython-limited-edition and are consequently prompted to download 5 Gigabytes of inference APIs to print hello world on a distributed multi-cloud pay-for-what-you-use Kubernetes instance .
- bobthepanda 4y ago
  the difference seems to be * the burden of CSS implementation of standards, is mostly on browsers * the new standards are supposed to be reducing complexity. Nobody wants to go back to hacking rounded corners together. CSS Grid finally gave us a sane way to specify 2D layouts, which were previously all designed by hacking 1D-priority things.
- di456 4y ago
  Dockerized environments are a godsend for this problem. I keep a generic docker env that I can clone into a new project in a few keystrokes. Hello world from local in minutes or less, on a recent version of python.
- camtarn 4y ago
  ...what mirror-universe version of Python are you using? One of my two main languages nowadays is Python, mostly deployed on single cloud instances, and it's still a case of writing a text file, sticking a #!/usr/bin/python at the top, and running it. Obviously if you're doing something that pulls in a ton of dependencies and uses live ever-changing APIs, you're in a much more complicated situation, but Python has never stopped being really darn simple for the simple use cases.
zero_shift 4y ago
> This is some software engineer edgelording. This is Chris Coyier, who launched css-tricks back in 2007 and codepen in 2012. He's worked in this field for over 15 years and is one of the most recognisable figures in the webdev community.
- jakub_jo 4y ago
  No, it's not Chris Coyier.
  - zero_shift 4y ago
    You are correct - it seems he has sold this site onto Digital Ocean
jakub_jo 4y ago
You're somewhat right. I either don't like the attitude of the whole article.

_aleph2c_ 4y ago

What is an edgelord?: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-an-edgelord-slang-definition-words-were-watching https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-an-edg...

iquerno 4y ago

This reminds me of how the whole philosophy of python is 'simplicity', but the moment you want to start building something you must be reminded of how you haven't updated to the latest version of gnu-anaconda-conda-py-pip3-x86_64-cpython-limited-edition and are consequently prompted to download 5 Gigabytes of inference APIs to print hello world on a distributed multi-cloud pay-for-what-you-use Kubernetes instance .

bobthepanda 4y ago
the difference seems to be * the burden of CSS implementation of standards, is mostly on browsers * the new standards are supposed to be reducing complexity. Nobody wants to go back to hacking rounded corners together. CSS Grid finally gave us a sane way to specify 2D layouts, which were previously all designed by hacking 1D-priority things.
di456 4y ago
Dockerized environments are a godsend for this problem. I keep a generic docker env that I can clone into a new project in a few keystrokes. Hello world from local in minutes or less, on a recent version of python.
camtarn 4y ago
...what mirror-universe version of Python are you using? One of my two main languages nowadays is Python, mostly deployed on single cloud instances, and it's still a case of writing a text file, sticking a #!/usr/bin/python at the top, and running it. Obviously if you're doing something that pulls in a ton of dependencies and uses live ever-changing APIs, you're in a much more complicated situation, but Python has never stopped being really darn simple for the simple use cases.

zero_shift 4y ago

> This is some software engineer edgelording. This is Chris Coyier, who launched css-tricks back in 2007 and codepen in 2012. He's worked in this field for over 15 years and is one of the most recognisable figures in the webdev community.

jakub_jo 4y ago
No, it's not Chris Coyier.
- zero_shift 4y ago
  You are correct - it seems he has sold this site onto Digital Ocean

jakub_jo 4y ago

You're somewhat right. I either don't like the attitude of the whole article.