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I'll grant that I hadn't tried installing Alpine -- I tried a few different Debian/Ubuntu variants and ran into the same handful of issues (including a few inst

I'll grant that I hadn't tried installing Alpine -- I tried a few different Debian/Ubuntu variants and ran into the same handful of issues (including a few installers failing completely.) That being said, MPD is not a good solution for my particular use case: I have family and friends that come over regularly, and they want to play music. None of them are technical and are easily dissuades by anything that doesn't immediately work with AirPlay or another UPnP-style setup.

softwarebeware 4y ago
MPD works great for non-tech-savvy friends over, you just need to install a web-based client and they can point their smartphone browser to it. To make it even easier for friends and family, I set up a dynamic DNS with a friendly URL like myjukebox.duckdns.org that points to the 192.168.xxx.xxx address where this is hosted. Mopidy (https://mopidy.com/ https://mopidy.com/) as the MPD server with Iris (https://mopidy.com/ext/iris/ https://mopidy.com/ext/iris/) as the client is a good setup for this. Even the tech-illiterate can get along with it.
- woodruffw 4y ago
  > MPD works great for non-tech-savvy friends over, you just need to install a web-based client and they can point their smartphone browser to it. There are different standards for this: my non-technical friends could probably browse to a local website on their smartphones. My parents would forget how to do it each time, and would be annoyed that it doesn't look like Spotify or Apple Music. As it is, everybody on my network is able to auto-discover the Pi using their phone or computer's native AirPlay/DLNA support and play music using their application of choice (meaning my server, their own MPD server, Spotify, whatever). That kind of flexibility was a necessity for my case.
  - softwarebeware 4y ago
    Doesn't that have the drawback, though, that you aren't able to share the playlist? My biggest complaint about Airplay (and also Bluetooth) is that someone might put their music on but when I want to put "my" music on I can't because they're paired to the given speakers. The MPD approach is far better because each person's client view is a shared view of a single playlist. People can all add or update that playlist together.
    - woodruffw 4y ago
      This is definitely true -- there's no shared playlist state, as far as I can tell, with this setup. I think HiFiBerryOS supports MPD, but I haven't looked too closely into it. At least for my purposes, this isn't too big of a drawback: HiFiBerryOS seems to take a "FIFO" approach, so taking over control just involves playing over AirPlay and booting the last person off. Someone could of course do that do me, but that's what social etiquette is for :-)
leni536 4y ago
> I tried a few different Debian/Ubuntu variants and ran into the same handful of issues (including a few installers failing completely.) Did that include plain Debian?
- woodruffw 4y ago
  Yep. I think the problem with plain Debian happened when the base install momentarily exceeded the available disk space (probably while decompressing packages during install). I didn't bother debugging it further.

softwarebeware 4y ago

MPD works great for non-tech-savvy friends over, you just need to install a web-based client and they can point their smartphone browser to it. To make it even easier for friends and family, I set up a dynamic DNS with a friendly URL like myjukebox.duckdns.org that points to the 192.168.xxx.xxx address where this is hosted. Mopidy (https://mopidy.com/ https://mopidy.com/) as the MPD server with Iris (https://mopidy.com/ext/iris/ https://mopidy.com/ext/iris/) as the client is a good setup for this. Even the tech-illiterate can get along with it.

woodruffw 4y ago
> MPD works great for non-tech-savvy friends over, you just need to install a web-based client and they can point their smartphone browser to it. There are different standards for this: my non-technical friends could probably browse to a local website on their smartphones. My parents would forget how to do it each time, and would be annoyed that it doesn't look like Spotify or Apple Music. As it is, everybody on my network is able to auto-discover the Pi using their phone or computer's native AirPlay/DLNA support and play music using their application of choice (meaning my server, their own MPD server, Spotify, whatever). That kind of flexibility was a necessity for my case.
- softwarebeware 4y ago
  Doesn't that have the drawback, though, that you aren't able to share the playlist? My biggest complaint about Airplay (and also Bluetooth) is that someone might put their music on but when I want to put "my" music on I can't because they're paired to the given speakers. The MPD approach is far better because each person's client view is a shared view of a single playlist. People can all add or update that playlist together.
  - woodruffw 4y ago
    This is definitely true -- there's no shared playlist state, as far as I can tell, with this setup. I think HiFiBerryOS supports MPD, but I haven't looked too closely into it. At least for my purposes, this isn't too big of a drawback: HiFiBerryOS seems to take a "FIFO" approach, so taking over control just involves playing over AirPlay and booting the last person off. Someone could of course do that do me, but that's what social etiquette is for :-)

leni536 4y ago

> I tried a few different Debian/Ubuntu variants and ran into the same handful of issues (including a few installers failing completely.) Did that include plain Debian?

woodruffw 4y ago
Yep. I think the problem with plain Debian happened when the base install momentarily exceeded the available disk space (probably while decompressing packages during install). I didn't bother debugging it further.