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Public transit in all the cities you listed places is a joke when compared with the rest of the world, regardless of how heavily they're relied upon. The Bosto

by britch 4y ago

Public transit in all the cities you listed places is a joke when compared with the rest of the world, regardless of how heavily they're relied upon. The Boston metro unexpectedly stopped running for a bit earlier this year. I grew up in one of these cities. It's not uncommon for a certain type of person to refuse to ride the bus or train

robswc 4y ago
I always avoid public transport if possible. If you ever work retail, you'll know dealing with the public is generally not fun. Lots of people looking to pick fights by being obnoxious on purpose and no authority to turn to (at least none that will do anything meaningful). I'm generally introverted, so having the peace and comfort of a car beats holding a pole surrounded by strangers. I also have lots of "emergency" supplies in my car. Has nothing to do with "class." It's not uncommon to see all types riding the metro in DC. For some people, public transport just isn't as appealing.
- panick21_ 4y ago
  I'm also introverted, but I love riding the train. Sit down, with headphones, a book, take a nap, finish up some work. But I guess if I had to be on some shitty US urban bus I would feel differently. “A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It’s where the rich use public transportation” – Gustavo Petro, Mayor of Bogotá Rich people are the people that complain when things are dirty or late. In Switzerland if a train is late nobody will be like 'well you should have planned for that'. Because its only late so few times that its actually quite exceptional for this to happen. The trains are full with people in suits working on laptops, having business meetings and so on. There is First Class even on the S-Bahn.
  - robswc 4y ago
    I’ve never taken a bus, always a metro. It’s not “bad” but again, so many reasons I just prefer a car. All my stuff is in it, I can eat in peace, cool in the summer and warm in the winter. Of course, with the drawback of you have to operate it all yourself. > Rich people are the people that complain when things are dirty or late Why do you have to be rich to have standards? I’ve been a broke college kid and would be mad if the car was dirty or late. A lady here was recently assaulted while riding the bus. I don’t think she was rich. She just asked a group of teens to stop yelling. If people want to take a train, that’s awesome. Less traffic for me :) it’s just preference.
    - panick21_ 4y ago
      I mean not sure what you would need that doesn't fit into a standard backpack. And a train is cool in the summer and war in the winter. And far more comfortable then a car. You can eat in peace as well. > Why do you have to be rich to have standards? That's not what I am saying. If you don't have other options, you will use the bus no matter what, so the bus companies don't lose anybody when their service is bad. However, if there are rich people using your bus, they have option, so if you don't want lots of your costumers to leave, you better make sure its exactable. If you really prefer a car that's fine, but cities and intensive structure should be fundamentally remodeled to not favor people in cars. As you say, this is actually better for drivers as well. Many people say driving in the Netherlands is better and safer, and that's partly possible because so many people are on bikes or public transport.
      - robswc 4y ago
        I always carry some extra clothes, water, dry food and a first aid kit. I also have a dolly and other “big items” which have come in useful, but ofc not really as needed as the other stuff. Backpack for laptop and other things, sure. At least where I am, the stations and cars are not really adjusted well for the climates and you cannot eat or drink on them. And thankfully I don’t have to commute at all anymore, anyways :) so I don’t have to pick my “lesser of two evils.” Cities can do whatever they want, all I have said is I prefer the privacy and comfort of a car as an introvert, if I have to visit a city.
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by britch 4y ago

robswc 4y ago

I always avoid public transport if possible. If you ever work retail, you'll know dealing with the public is generally not fun. Lots of people looking to pick fights by being obnoxious on purpose and no authority to turn to (at least none that will do anything meaningful). I'm generally introverted, so having the peace and comfort of a car beats holding a pole surrounded by strangers. I also have lots of "emergency" supplies in my car. Has nothing to do with "class." It's not uncommon to see all types riding the metro in DC. For some people, public transport just isn't as appealing.

panick21_ 4y ago
I'm also introverted, but I love riding the train. Sit down, with headphones, a book, take a nap, finish up some work. But I guess if I had to be on some shitty US urban bus I would feel differently. “A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It’s where the rich use public transportation” – Gustavo Petro, Mayor of Bogotá Rich people are the people that complain when things are dirty or late. In Switzerland if a train is late nobody will be like 'well you should have planned for that'. Because its only late so few times that its actually quite exceptional for this to happen. The trains are full with people in suits working on laptops, having business meetings and so on. There is First Class even on the S-Bahn.
- robswc 4y ago
  I’ve never taken a bus, always a metro. It’s not “bad” but again, so many reasons I just prefer a car. All my stuff is in it, I can eat in peace, cool in the summer and warm in the winter. Of course, with the drawback of you have to operate it all yourself. > Rich people are the people that complain when things are dirty or late Why do you have to be rich to have standards? I’ve been a broke college kid and would be mad if the car was dirty or late. A lady here was recently assaulted while riding the bus. I don’t think she was rich. She just asked a group of teens to stop yelling. If people want to take a train, that’s awesome. Less traffic for me :) it’s just preference.
  - panick21_ 4y ago
    I mean not sure what you would need that doesn't fit into a standard backpack. And a train is cool in the summer and war in the winter. And far more comfortable then a car. You can eat in peace as well. > Why do you have to be rich to have standards? That's not what I am saying. If you don't have other options, you will use the bus no matter what, so the bus companies don't lose anybody when their service is bad. However, if there are rich people using your bus, they have option, so if you don't want lots of your costumers to leave, you better make sure its exactable. If you really prefer a car that's fine, but cities and intensive structure should be fundamentally remodeled to not favor people in cars. As you say, this is actually better for drivers as well. Many people say driving in the Netherlands is better and safer, and that's partly possible because so many people are on bikes or public transport.
    - robswc 4y ago
      I always carry some extra clothes, water, dry food and a first aid kit. I also have a dolly and other “big items” which have come in useful, but ofc not really as needed as the other stuff. Backpack for laptop and other things, sure. At least where I am, the stations and cars are not really adjusted well for the climates and you cannot eat or drink on them. And thankfully I don’t have to commute at all anymore, anyways :) so I don’t have to pick my “lesser of two evils.” Cities can do whatever they want, all I have said is I prefer the privacy and comfort of a car as an introvert, if I have to visit a city.
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