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Twitter Bullies

efields 4y ago
yes and?
- brodouevencode 4y ago
  If the date in the slug is accurate this is relatively early on (2011/12/22) - well before it became the desired battleground for ideological differences, and well, well before Twitter (or even Reddit) became the cesspools they are now. So there is a little novelty in this post that is probably sincere.
  - 878654Tom 4y ago
    Implying the internet as a whole isn't a cesspool since the start. I remember Medal of Honor/Call of Duty lobbies, MSN Communities, bulletin boards,... were quite a bit... worse. Every lobby you joined was a cesspool of racism, sexism,... Heck, even Reddit was much worse in the beginning. While now you have Democrats versus Republican discussions, in the first years you had communities that openly talked about committing genocide of other races and sharing jailbait pictures. The worst of Twitter now is very tame in comparison of those unmoderated lobbies.
    - brodouevencode 4y ago
      Fair to a point. In those times you knew what you were getting into. The users picked the winners (popular kids) and the losers - it was truly the wild west but at least it was truly community (for lack of a better word) driven. The difference is that now the platforms pick the winners and losers. That's where it fell apart.
- deleted 4y ago
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WilTimSon 4y ago
> Oh, and good luck. Despite the bullying and other inconveniences, Twitter remains an intriguing world for the social explorer. 11 years later and that message might finally lose its relevance. Despite Twitter's numerous faults, in my eyes, it was always an interesting platform where you could find something to look at/read, even if it was often in the form of a link to another platform. Now, with a ton of people feeling fed up and choosing to leave, it's going to lose the one thing that made it good (and, other times, bad) - its user base. A shame if it does, Twitter is an essential part of the Internet's history.
- sedeki 4y ago
  Is a ton of people really leaving Twitter? It seems more like a political statement by certain people (that's not necessarily acted upon).
  - mikkergp 4y ago
    > Is a ton of people really leaving Twitter? Probably too early to tell. Early reports have it at like a million which would be a drop in the bucket. I don’t think Twitter would die just because Elon took over, the question is will his changes overall slowly improve the site or slowly degrade it for “most people” whatever that means, the hard part for Elon is the least sticky twitter users may also be the least vocal. He could listen to everyone and still lose a large swath of users for reasons he doesn’t understand.
  - brodouevencode 4y ago
    There are a lot of people fake leaving (read: rage posting about how they are going to leave but not actually following through) Twitter mainly because of Musk's buyout. Mastodon seems to be the new home for a lot of these people. While I'm sure some will leave and stay gone, Twitter has too much inertia going for it that is desirable to most users: centrality and reach, ease of use, by-proxy ad platform, to name a few. Some things like search and monetization need a lot of work, and from what I've gathered by Musk's tweets these two are at or near the top of the list to be fixed. In order for Twitter to fail at this point there's too much human behavior that would have to change. There are a ton of people out there touting Mastodon as a replacement, but I just don't think that's going to happen.
recuter 4y ago
> Well, it finally happened. I met my very first cyber-bully. Followed by several Mr. Mackey paragraphs describing how people can be, gasp, rude online. Shitposting predates twitter, the web, Usenet, and even BBS. Almost as soon as you could communicate with computers in the very first chat rooms you had academics hurling insults at each other. And before that you'll find cheeky telegraph messages. You should read how Timur used to talk to people: Believe me, you are but pismire ant: don't seek to fight the elephants for they'll crush you under their feet. Shall a petty prince such as you are contend with us? But your rodomontades (braggadocio) are not extraordinary; for a Turcoman never spake with judgement. If you don't follow our counsels you will regret it I'd take cyber bullying over a Turco-Mongolic psycho on horseback taking personal issue with me any day. Please, can we have a week free of twitter stories? Pretty please?
- audessuscest 4y ago
  yes that would be good, thanks for pointing that out.
- hutzlibu 4y ago
  "Please, can we have a week free of twitter stories? Pretty please? " You know that in theory, you are free to not click the stories that you do not like?
  - recuter 4y ago
    For some reason I thought there might be something of value written as HN is supposed to aggregate and curate useful information. I keep falling for it, I understand Jerry Springer viewers now, hard to pull away from a dumpster fire.
    - danaris 4y ago
      What is of value to you is not the same as what is of value to others. Please do not project your own desires onto the world or assume everyone must feel the same as you in order to be worthwhile.
- 4y ago
notamy 4y ago
Judging by the URL, this seems to be (2011). Keep this in mind when reading it!
swayvil 4y ago
If you intend to bully, you should always side with the popular narrative. Science/convention/authority/consensus/correct-politics is your greatest bullying ally.

yes and?

brodouevencode 4y ago
If the date in the slug is accurate this is relatively early on (2011/12/22) - well before it became the desired battleground for ideological differences, and well, well before Twitter (or even Reddit) became the cesspools they are now. So there is a little novelty in this post that is probably sincere.
- 878654Tom 4y ago
  Implying the internet as a whole isn't a cesspool since the start. I remember Medal of Honor/Call of Duty lobbies, MSN Communities, bulletin boards,... were quite a bit... worse. Every lobby you joined was a cesspool of racism, sexism,... Heck, even Reddit was much worse in the beginning. While now you have Democrats versus Republican discussions, in the first years you had communities that openly talked about committing genocide of other races and sharing jailbait pictures. The worst of Twitter now is very tame in comparison of those unmoderated lobbies.
  - brodouevencode 4y ago
    Fair to a point. In those times you knew what you were getting into. The users picked the winners (popular kids) and the losers - it was truly the wild west but at least it was truly community (for lack of a better word) driven. The difference is that now the platforms pick the winners and losers. That's where it fell apart.
deleted 4y ago
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> Oh, and good luck. Despite the bullying and other inconveniences, Twitter remains an intriguing world for the social explorer. 11 years later and that message might finally lose its relevance. Despite Twitter's numerous faults, in my eyes, it was always an interesting platform where you could find something to look at/read, even if it was often in the form of a link to another platform. Now, with a ton of people feeling fed up and choosing to leave, it's going to lose the one thing that made it good (and, other times, bad) - its user base. A shame if it does, Twitter is an essential part of the Internet's history.

sedeki 4y ago
Is a ton of people really leaving Twitter? It seems more like a political statement by certain people (that's not necessarily acted upon).
- mikkergp 4y ago
  > Is a ton of people really leaving Twitter? Probably too early to tell. Early reports have it at like a million which would be a drop in the bucket. I don’t think Twitter would die just because Elon took over, the question is will his changes overall slowly improve the site or slowly degrade it for “most people” whatever that means, the hard part for Elon is the least sticky twitter users may also be the least vocal. He could listen to everyone and still lose a large swath of users for reasons he doesn’t understand.
- brodouevencode 4y ago
  There are a lot of people fake leaving (read: rage posting about how they are going to leave but not actually following through) Twitter mainly because of Musk's buyout. Mastodon seems to be the new home for a lot of these people. While I'm sure some will leave and stay gone, Twitter has too much inertia going for it that is desirable to most users: centrality and reach, ease of use, by-proxy ad platform, to name a few. Some things like search and monetization need a lot of work, and from what I've gathered by Musk's tweets these two are at or near the top of the list to be fixed. In order for Twitter to fail at this point there's too much human behavior that would have to change. There are a ton of people out there touting Mastodon as a replacement, but I just don't think that's going to happen.

recuter 4y ago

> Well, it finally happened. I met my very first cyber-bully. Followed by several Mr. Mackey paragraphs describing how people can be, gasp, rude online. Shitposting predates twitter, the web, Usenet, and even BBS. Almost as soon as you could communicate with computers in the very first chat rooms you had academics hurling insults at each other. And before that you'll find cheeky telegraph messages. You should read how Timur used to talk to people: Believe me, you are but pismire ant: don't seek to fight the elephants for they'll crush you under their feet. Shall a petty prince such as you are contend with us? But your rodomontades (braggadocio) are not extraordinary; for a Turcoman never spake with judgement. If you don't follow our counsels you will regret it I'd take cyber bullying over a Turco-Mongolic psycho on horseback taking personal issue with me any day. Please, can we have a week free of twitter stories? Pretty please?

audessuscest 4y ago
yes that would be good, thanks for pointing that out.
hutzlibu 4y ago
"Please, can we have a week free of twitter stories? Pretty please? " You know that in theory, you are free to not click the stories that you do not like?
- recuter 4y ago
  For some reason I thought there might be something of value written as HN is supposed to aggregate and curate useful information. I keep falling for it, I understand Jerry Springer viewers now, hard to pull away from a dumpster fire.
  - danaris 4y ago
    What is of value to you is not the same as what is of value to others. Please do not project your own desires onto the world or assume everyone must feel the same as you in order to be worthwhile.
4y ago

notamy 4y ago

Judging by the URL, this seems to be (2011). Keep this in mind when reading it!

swayvil 4y ago

If you intend to bully, you should always side with the popular narrative. Science/convention/authority/consensus/correct-politics is your greatest bullying ally.