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The YouTube shorts really piss me off, because, afaik there’s no way to seek (and some of them are a bit long for a “short”), at least from what I’ve seen in th

The YouTube shorts really piss me off, because, afaik there’s no way to seek (and some of them are a bit long for a “short”), at least from what I’ve seen in the mobile UI. It may be behind a gesture or something though.

nkozyra 4y ago
That's the copycat behavior. It's forced engagement analytics. You either care (and it's boosted for some people) or you don't (and it's devalued for some people). All in the pursuit of perpetual doomscrolling.
texasbigdata 4y ago
Hard to save to a playlist too. Find a useful life tip? Forget about being able to find it later.
- TeMPOraL 4y ago
  I wonder how much noise this adds to their algorithm. The other day my wife wanted to show me some "short" from a content creator she likes, and had to rapidly scroll through ~30 of other "shorts" in her feed until said creator popped up again and she could click on her profile pic. Whatever way YouTube rated those other 30 vids for my wife is completely wrong, unless they happen to have a classification category called "rapidly scrolling down because of your stupid ass UI that doesn't allow backtracking or searching previously seen content". At this rate, in a few years, even non-tech-savvy people will get fed up with increasingly nonsensical and confusing UIs of social media products.
gbear605 4y ago
Sometimes you can drag along the bottom to seek, but it only seems to work on some shorts. You can sometimes tell if it will work because it’ll show a progress bar at the bottom. I’m not sure what distinguishes those though, since I’ve seen long shorts (hah) with and without them.
ta8903 4y ago
"Youtube Shorts" is just an alternative frontend, you can replace any url from youtube.com/shorts/XYZ to youtube.com/watch?v=XYZ to watch them with the original UI.
- XCSme 4y ago
  It's a lot more than UI, it is a completely new distribution medium. Creators are also now incentivized to make such type of "shorts" as their distribution/algorithm is completely separate from the normal videos.

nkozyra 4y ago

That's the copycat behavior. It's forced engagement analytics. You either care (and it's boosted for some people) or you don't (and it's devalued for some people). All in the pursuit of perpetual doomscrolling.

texasbigdata 4y ago

Hard to save to a playlist too. Find a useful life tip? Forget about being able to find it later.

TeMPOraL 4y ago
I wonder how much noise this adds to their algorithm. The other day my wife wanted to show me some "short" from a content creator she likes, and had to rapidly scroll through ~30 of other "shorts" in her feed until said creator popped up again and she could click on her profile pic. Whatever way YouTube rated those other 30 vids for my wife is completely wrong, unless they happen to have a classification category called "rapidly scrolling down because of your stupid ass UI that doesn't allow backtracking or searching previously seen content". At this rate, in a few years, even non-tech-savvy people will get fed up with increasingly nonsensical and confusing UIs of social media products.

gbear605 4y ago

Sometimes you can drag along the bottom to seek, but it only seems to work on some shorts. You can sometimes tell if it will work because it’ll show a progress bar at the bottom. I’m not sure what distinguishes those though, since I’ve seen long shorts (hah) with and without them.

ta8903 4y ago

"Youtube Shorts" is just an alternative frontend, you can replace any url from youtube.com/shorts/XYZ to youtube.com/watch?v=XYZ to watch them with the original UI.

XCSme 4y ago
It's a lot more than UI, it is a completely new distribution medium. Creators are also now incentivized to make such type of "shorts" as their distribution/algorithm is completely separate from the normal videos.