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That's a really good question, yes it can but we can remain impartial as we have no visibility to content or anything our users do. Platforms can still ban user

by Lws803 4y ago

That's a really good question, yes it can but we can remain impartial as we have no visibility to content or anything our users do. Platforms can still ban users on their side or through our API but that would not limit our users from joining other platforms or creating their own.

orangepurple 4y ago
What this really means is that the mob will need to pressure Soul into cancelling undesirable account holders through 3rd party site communication.
- mozman 4y ago
  Not to mention oauth is very hard to get right.. it’s a huge undertaking with pentesting, fraud detection etc. I leave it to the big guys do auth.
  - orangepurple 4y ago
    And if Soul doesn't cave to the mob they will go for their ISP. Look no further than what happened to Kiwifarms if you piss off the mob.
    - Lws803 4y ago
      It is a challenging position to be in for sure but I want to fight for freedom of speech and democratizing social media. If no one does anything nothing would change. Its takes 100 failures to make a pivotal change may soul could be that trigger for change
      - mozman 4y ago
        I applaud your efforts and wish you much success. A lot of people talk, few take action.
cowsup 4y ago
Lots of similar sites start up the same way, I know from experience. Let individual communities self-govern, and stay out of it. Then you get spambots attacking your service, so you set up checks on your end to alleviate the burden your individual community moderators have to undertake. Then people sending illegal/shocking content. More changes on your end. Then your government sends you notice that copyrighted content is being shared on your platform. Oops, gotta moderate that, too. Death threats, alternate accounts, you name it, these are the things that will either make your community moderators & users leave (thus no service), or things you have to crack down on yourself. Before long, you have a full-time team dedicated to moderating content. Not saying this to just discourage you or belittle you, but, if you tell communities that you will be "impartial" 100% of the time, then that might come back to bite you later when you have to take action.
YetAnotherNick 4y ago
Either you could please users or you could please platforms. If 99% of your users are bots, do you think any platform will accept your users?
- Lws803 4y ago
  We'll need to have better validation in place for sure, that's a good suggestion though. It's tricky to moderate for bots while not limiting a user's freedom of expression. Maybe in the future, we can have some kind of voting system where if more than x number of verified platforms voted against a Soul account for bot activity, we will ban that user entirely from Soul.

by Lws803 4y ago

orangepurple 4y ago

What this really means is that the mob will need to pressure Soul into cancelling undesirable account holders through 3rd party site communication.

mozman 4y ago
Not to mention oauth is very hard to get right.. it’s a huge undertaking with pentesting, fraud detection etc. I leave it to the big guys do auth.
- orangepurple 4y ago
  And if Soul doesn't cave to the mob they will go for their ISP. Look no further than what happened to Kiwifarms if you piss off the mob.
  - Lws803 4y ago
    It is a challenging position to be in for sure but I want to fight for freedom of speech and democratizing social media. If no one does anything nothing would change. Its takes 100 failures to make a pivotal change may soul could be that trigger for change
    - mozman 4y ago
      I applaud your efforts and wish you much success. A lot of people talk, few take action.

cowsup 4y ago

Lots of similar sites start up the same way, I know from experience. Let individual communities self-govern, and stay out of it. Then you get spambots attacking your service, so you set up checks on your end to alleviate the burden your individual community moderators have to undertake. Then people sending illegal/shocking content. More changes on your end. Then your government sends you notice that copyrighted content is being shared on your platform. Oops, gotta moderate that, too. Death threats, alternate accounts, you name it, these are the things that will either make your community moderators & users leave (thus no service), or things you have to crack down on yourself. Before long, you have a full-time team dedicated to moderating content. Not saying this to just discourage you or belittle you, but, if you tell communities that you will be "impartial" 100% of the time, then that might come back to bite you later when you have to take action.

YetAnotherNick 4y ago

Either you could please users or you could please platforms. If 99% of your users are bots, do you think any platform will accept your users?

Lws803 4y ago
We'll need to have better validation in place for sure, that's a good suggestion though. It's tricky to moderate for bots while not limiting a user's freedom of expression. Maybe in the future, we can have some kind of voting system where if more than x number of verified platforms voted against a Soul account for bot activity, we will ban that user entirely from Soul.