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Sorry all. Apparently I need to put Cloudflare back on the server. Here is the achive.org version: https://web.archive.org/web/20221107120623/https://ipde.com/

Sorry all. Apparently I need to put Cloudflare back on the server. Here is the achive.org version: https://web.archive.org/web/20221107120623/https://ipde.com/blog/2022/11/04/a-wild-hearing-chief-judge-connolly-flips-over-rock-finds-mavexar-llc-crawling-around-controlling-patent-litigation-and-giving-hapless-patent-owners-just-5-10/ https://web.archive.org/web/20221107120623/https://ipde.com/... Edit: I discovered the Render.com autoscaler setting. Hopefully it's back now.

webartisan 4y ago
What made you remove it?
- Andrew_Russell 4y ago
  We have readers at the Delaware courthouse and, incredibly, the courthouse network setup blocks the site for Chrome users if I use Cloudflare. I tried for weeks to find a solution other than removing Cloudflare but nothing seemed to work, and I really want people from the courthouse to be able to read the blog!
  - bombcar 4y ago
    Can you intercept their network and redirect it to a copy hosted elsewhere or on another CDN? Blocking cloudflare blocks half the internet so I presume there’s something else going on somewhere.
    - Kalium 4y ago
      Generally Cloudflare is integrated as the DNS level. In most configurations that would prevent intercepting their network requests and redirecting them to a copy hosted elsewhere or on another CDN. Pretty much every CDN works the same way or very similarly.
  - jason-phillips 4y ago
    > the courthouse network setup blocks the site for Chrome users if I use Cloudflare Lovely. As my local county attorney told the court, "We will not be using the cloud because it is not secure," this doesn't surprise me. The bane of local governments strikes again.
    - MichaelZuo 4y ago
      Aren't they correct? I would ballpark Delaware court IT security requirements as similar to DoD Secret level clearance. And as far as I understand a higher security cloud solution is usually a custom ask and really expensive at any of the major providers, simply not affordable for smaller organizations.
      - joshspankit 4y ago
        “There is no cloud it’s just [computers]” Since “cloud” is actually a marketing term (usually meaning virtualized servers), any company or department who says no to any mention of using the cloud is showing willful ignorance.
        bombcar 4y ago
        If you know you don’t know enough, demanding paper documents makes sense. It takes quite a bit of study and knowledge to determine that a “cloud document” cannot be changed or altered after submission (and by whom).
        pc86 4y ago
        Or the ability to trust subject-matter experts who know better than you.
        bombcar 4y ago
        One thing judges know is how they can get burned by experts - and they know to whom the liability falls if something goes wrong.
  - majke 4y ago
    Worth debugging. Please email me at marek at cloudflare dot com
christophilus 4y ago
Well, unrelated to the topic, but I'd be curious how many request / sec you were getting, and how many nodes Render autoscaled up to. I'm running a client's site on a single Render node right now and have been curious how it'd stand up to traffic spikes.
- gregsadetsky 4y ago
  I recently had an unoptimized Django site running on render.com with the `plan: standard` setting survive the HN front page with a single node. I had autoscale set to on, but it never needed to scale up. I don't know the requests/second, but at peak on Google Analytics it said that 300 people were on the site "right now" -- unsure of what that corresponds to. ~5-10 reqs/s roughly? Also note that render.com puts Cloudflare in "front" of the nodes automatically, which helps with some caching. (I'm unaffiliated btw, just moved to them from Heroku and have been happy to far)
  - judge2020 4y ago
    > Google Analytics Hardly effective for gauging HN readership, given the abundant use of ad blockers. Based on no evidence whatsoever, 100x that and you should have a reliable estimate.
- Andrew_Russell 4y ago
  I can't tell from the logs that I can see. But the site is all or almost all text from Render with images on AWS, and bandwidth topped out at "220MB" (per hour? Not sure) from Render this morning. It came back up as soon as I enabled scaling, and it only scaled to 3 nodes. It's also a Python 3 instance running Django/Wagtail/Puput, and all blame goes to me for poor coding. If anyone reading this happens to be a Wagtail & Render expert and wants some short contract work fixing my code, please reach out (arussell@shawkeller.com)!
anurag 4y ago
Glad to hear scaling went well! Maybe we should automatically ping you about the autoscaling option when your traffic spikes.

webartisan 4y ago

What made you remove it?

Andrew_Russell 4y ago
We have readers at the Delaware courthouse and, incredibly, the courthouse network setup blocks the site for Chrome users if I use Cloudflare. I tried for weeks to find a solution other than removing Cloudflare but nothing seemed to work, and I really want people from the courthouse to be able to read the blog!
- bombcar 4y ago
  Can you intercept their network and redirect it to a copy hosted elsewhere or on another CDN? Blocking cloudflare blocks half the internet so I presume there’s something else going on somewhere.
  - Kalium 4y ago
    Generally Cloudflare is integrated as the DNS level. In most configurations that would prevent intercepting their network requests and redirecting them to a copy hosted elsewhere or on another CDN. Pretty much every CDN works the same way or very similarly.
- jason-phillips 4y ago
  > the courthouse network setup blocks the site for Chrome users if I use Cloudflare Lovely. As my local county attorney told the court, "We will not be using the cloud because it is not secure," this doesn't surprise me. The bane of local governments strikes again.
  - MichaelZuo 4y ago
    Aren't they correct? I would ballpark Delaware court IT security requirements as similar to DoD Secret level clearance. And as far as I understand a higher security cloud solution is usually a custom ask and really expensive at any of the major providers, simply not affordable for smaller organizations.
    - joshspankit 4y ago
      “There is no cloud it’s just [computers]” Since “cloud” is actually a marketing term (usually meaning virtualized servers), any company or department who says no to any mention of using the cloud is showing willful ignorance.
      - bombcar 4y ago
        If you know you don’t know enough, demanding paper documents makes sense. It takes quite a bit of study and knowledge to determine that a “cloud document” cannot be changed or altered after submission (and by whom).
        pc86 4y ago
        Or the ability to trust subject-matter experts who know better than you.
        bombcar 4y ago
        One thing judges know is how they can get burned by experts - and they know to whom the liability falls if something goes wrong.
- majke 4y ago
  Worth debugging. Please email me at marek at cloudflare dot com

christophilus 4y ago

Well, unrelated to the topic, but I'd be curious how many request / sec you were getting, and how many nodes Render autoscaled up to. I'm running a client's site on a single Render node right now and have been curious how it'd stand up to traffic spikes.

gregsadetsky 4y ago
I recently had an unoptimized Django site running on render.com with the `plan: standard` setting survive the HN front page with a single node. I had autoscale set to on, but it never needed to scale up. I don't know the requests/second, but at peak on Google Analytics it said that 300 people were on the site "right now" -- unsure of what that corresponds to. ~5-10 reqs/s roughly? Also note that render.com puts Cloudflare in "front" of the nodes automatically, which helps with some caching. (I'm unaffiliated btw, just moved to them from Heroku and have been happy to far)
- judge2020 4y ago
  > Google Analytics Hardly effective for gauging HN readership, given the abundant use of ad blockers. Based on no evidence whatsoever, 100x that and you should have a reliable estimate.
Andrew_Russell 4y ago
I can't tell from the logs that I can see. But the site is all or almost all text from Render with images on AWS, and bandwidth topped out at "220MB" (per hour? Not sure) from Render this morning. It came back up as soon as I enabled scaling, and it only scaled to 3 nodes. It's also a Python 3 instance running Django/Wagtail/Puput, and all blame goes to me for poor coding. If anyone reading this happens to be a Wagtail & Render expert and wants some short contract work fixing my code, please reach out (arussell@shawkeller.com)!

anurag 4y ago

Glad to hear scaling went well! Maybe we should automatically ping you about the autoscaling option when your traffic spikes.