That newsgroup also has more than it's fair share of maddeningly annoying people who think anything beyond Fortran77 plus the proprietary compiler extensions of

That newsgroup also has more than it's fair share of maddeningly annoying people who think anything beyond Fortran77 plus the proprietary compiler extensions of the compiler they happen to use (which inevitably is some long-dead trainwreck like MS Powerstation that nobody else has used for decades) is an affront to them and God (in order of importance). And some people who inevitably try to derail every single thread into a discussion of Fortran IV and PL/I in the context of programming some 1970'ies IBM mainframes. I used to be somewhat active on c.l.f, but I quit many years ago, and to be honest I haven't missed it one bit.