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Came to a freedom respecting alternative to Twitter. Voiced an opinion that is not racist: just not agreeing with govt policy. Got kicked out for having an opin

by cies 4y ago

Came to a freedom respecting alternative to Twitter. Voiced an opinion that is not racist: just not agreeing with govt policy. Got kicked out for having an opinion. Mainly I'm interested in the two fediverses, as a reflection of society. On Twitter it seems Musk is trying to cater for both on one platform. Interesting.

pjc50 4y ago
> Got kicked out for having an opinion. Like a Nigerian Prince email, certain opinions have been seen often enough to know that no good is going to come of engaging in it.
- audessuscest 4y ago
  the one you don't like ?
fsloth 4y ago
I agree that triggerhappy moderation is not something I would agree with. However, in this case I kind of understand the moderators response. You might consider yourself a "critical thinker" but these examples of opinion are coming straight out of Kremlin troll factory. If I were you, I would give a good, long consideration to the sources you follow. For example, raising Iraq, Libya, Afganistan or Vietnam of examples of "inconsistent EU foreign policy" in regards to arming Ukraine displays an extremely skewed and uninformed view of politics and history, and the sole reason for a such a muddled argument can only to be to undermine the western support for Ukraine. Forceful banning in general is not nice but if your actions are perceived to be those of a paid troll I understand why some moderators might confuse you for one.
colinsane 4y ago
> Came to a freedom respecting alternative to Twitter. don't mistake this as a nitpick, but this is just your opinion on what the fediverse is. not everyone comes here for the same reason as you. sharing any space means getting along with your neighbors. if you're pissing off the established culture of whatever server you're joining, that's on you: maybe join a community that's more aligned with you next time. if you're pissing off your neighbors on a different server, it's reasonably healthy for them to cut ties with you. if this bothers you and you want to remain neighbors, then present yourself to them as the type of neighbor they would want. that's just what it means to be in society. > Mainly I'm interested in the two fediverses, as a reflection of society. there's definitely _way_ more than two clusters/rifts in the fediverse. on the political front, i'm guessing you haven't encountered the anarchist servers yet, at least (maybe because they're less interested in engaging in the overplayed left v.s. right fights).
- cies 4y ago
  > i'm guessing you haven't encountered the anarchist servers yet I was on one of the most prominent of those. Like I said, going fedi/masto was an experiment for me. Now I know I need my own server or stay out of there. I'm not aware of other clusters btw.
manfre 4y ago
You're confusing your freedom to say what you want as a requirement for others to listen and accept your content on their servers. Anyone is free to post whatever their server's policy allows. Every server is free to enforce their written or unwritten policy. If your type of content does not align with a server, you need to find a different server. Depending on your content ideas, you might need to host your own. No server is required to accept posts from any specific server. There are/will be servers that are isolated islands of content that no other servers want to interact with. This isolation is freedom respecting.

by cies 4y ago

pjc50 4y ago

> Got kicked out for having an opinion. Like a Nigerian Prince email, certain opinions have been seen often enough to know that no good is going to come of engaging in it.

audessuscest 4y ago
the one you don't like ?

fsloth 4y ago

I agree that triggerhappy moderation is not something I would agree with. However, in this case I kind of understand the moderators response. You might consider yourself a "critical thinker" but these examples of opinion are coming straight out of Kremlin troll factory. If I were you, I would give a good, long consideration to the sources you follow. For example, raising Iraq, Libya, Afganistan or Vietnam of examples of "inconsistent EU foreign policy" in regards to arming Ukraine displays an extremely skewed and uninformed view of politics and history, and the sole reason for a such a muddled argument can only to be to undermine the western support for Ukraine. Forceful banning in general is not nice but if your actions are perceived to be those of a paid troll I understand why some moderators might confuse you for one.

colinsane 4y ago

> Came to a freedom respecting alternative to Twitter. don't mistake this as a nitpick, but this is just your opinion on what the fediverse is. not everyone comes here for the same reason as you. sharing any space means getting along with your neighbors. if you're pissing off the established culture of whatever server you're joining, that's on you: maybe join a community that's more aligned with you next time. if you're pissing off your neighbors on a different server, it's reasonably healthy for them to cut ties with you. if this bothers you and you want to remain neighbors, then present yourself to them as the type of neighbor they would want. that's just what it means to be in society. > Mainly I'm interested in the two fediverses, as a reflection of society. there's definitely _way_ more than two clusters/rifts in the fediverse. on the political front, i'm guessing you haven't encountered the anarchist servers yet, at least (maybe because they're less interested in engaging in the overplayed left v.s. right fights).

cies 4y ago
> i'm guessing you haven't encountered the anarchist servers yet I was on one of the most prominent of those. Like I said, going fedi/masto was an experiment for me. Now I know I need my own server or stay out of there. I'm not aware of other clusters btw.

manfre 4y ago

You're confusing your freedom to say what you want as a requirement for others to listen and accept your content on their servers. Anyone is free to post whatever their server's policy allows. Every server is free to enforce their written or unwritten policy. If your type of content does not align with a server, you need to find a different server. Depending on your content ideas, you might need to host your own. No server is required to accept posts from any specific server. There are/will be servers that are isolated islands of content that no other servers want to interact with. This isolation is freedom respecting.